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If nothing happens after we die, what's the point of it all?

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    We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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    I think life is about maximizing positive subjective experience. If it doesn't make you happy or allow you to live happy in other moments, don't do it. Work sucks, but it gives you money that allows you to buy things that make you happy.

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      there is no point. simply try to enjoy it

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      thanks for the profound insight, nutsack.

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      • G [email protected]

        We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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        Because you dont know jack shit no one does, might as well wait til the longest possible length to figure out the unknown

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        • G [email protected]

          We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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          Ngl this type of post on reddit used to make me depresssed as a kid and id make them too, dont want to see them, theres no point in thinking about this thats why ppl either dont or spend all their time religious

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          • G [email protected]

            We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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            There’s no point, and that’s beautiful. Go live your life the way you want to — nothing will happen after you die

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              We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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              A lot of things happen after you die. And if you participate actively (both positively and negatively) then some of that have your contribution and thus you leave a legacy.

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              • R [email protected]

                Friedrich Nietzsche had a lot to say about this.

                Suffering is part of what gives life meaning. If you don't know how hard it can get, you don't know how good it can get as well. And there's good suffering out there. Physical exercise, challenging yourself, testing your potential to see what you can actualize are all sufficient things to do in this life. You don't know what you can do until you try to do it.

                Then you have to consider things like morality and knowledge.

                We humans (and specifically old, white humans) tend to subject others to a certain kind of suffering through the patriarchy. That's not right. Every human should have a chance to live a good life in contrast to suffering. And the ethical pursuit of morality doesn't have to stop with our specific species of life. Humans also subject hundreds of other biological species to a life of slavery, torture, and death. It is a noble cause to bring freedom to those species, just as it is to bring freedom to Palestinians or Ukrainians or Hong Kongers. Their potential is limited by human made constructs which can just as easily be deconstructed.

                Also, the universe is infinite (as far as we can tell). There are many machinations ongoing that cause certain events to happen. Why? Why was my local village destroyed by a rock flying in from space? Why is my town in Texas experiencing freezing temperatures when that's never occurred before? How long do I have to get to higher ground until the tsunami that earthquake caused reaches the coast? It's in our interest to learn about the natural world due to the hazards it brings to our lives, and which it could end prematurely. Humans are also curious. Why is our universe the way it is? Why can't we live in a 4D reality? Can we even grasp reality? How do I know something caused something else? How confident can we be in those judgements?

                The human condition since The Enlightenment has meant we've shifted our epistemological focus away from us towards the greater world around us. If we no longer have an Almighty God which has all the answers and tells us what's good and ill, who does that now? We do!

                God is dead. But morality, knowledge, and the good life of flourishing are not.

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                Also kind of sad that Palestine and Ukraine were apparently hot topics even in Nietzsche’s day…

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                • G [email protected]

                  We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                  I'm pretty confident that there's an afterlife.

                  I speak from my own research into related phenomena.

                  The afterlife is basically the dreamworld but moreso.

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                    We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                    I'm just hoping we help each other to achieve our goals before we go

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                      We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                      Embrace Absurdism.
                      Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv79l1b-eoI
                      And/Or read Albert Camus

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                        There’s no point, and that’s beautiful. Go live your life the way you want to — nothing will happen after you die

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                        Or another way, the process is the point

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                          We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                          Live your life its the point of living. not working all day in the best days of your life.

                          Your time its all you have. don't waste it.

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                            Live your life its the point of living. not working all day in the best days of your life.

                            Your time its all you have. don't waste it.

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                            ...or do ! but knowingly !

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                              We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                              Everything happens after you die, you solipsistic fool

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                                We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                The meaning of your life is whatever you decide it to be. Your most fundamental motivations are inherently irrational/instinctual, but once you know what they are you can pursue them more deliberately.

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                                  Embrace Absurdism.
                                  Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv79l1b-eoI
                                  And/Or read Albert Camus

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                                  Read myth of sisyphus BEFORE the stranger please. But yea camus is great

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                                    I'm pretty confident that there's an afterlife.

                                    I speak from my own research into related phenomena.

                                    The afterlife is basically the dreamworld but moreso.

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                                    what was it like before you were born? That's what it's like after you die.

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                                      We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                      Your single existence might be ephemeral, but humanity isn't, your community isn't, and possibly your family either

                                      Individualism breaks that sense of purpose, and it teaches us that happiness is made by personal enjoyment of often exclusive activities

                                      If we lose trust in our community or in humanity in general, if we imagine the next person to only care about themselves, basivally if we expect individualism from others, we lose hope of feeling a more community-oriented form of happiness! And unfortunately in many places that situation is expected, because people are often indeed individualistic

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                                        Your single existence might be ephemeral, but humanity isn't, your community isn't, and possibly your family either

                                        Individualism breaks that sense of purpose, and it teaches us that happiness is made by personal enjoyment of often exclusive activities

                                        If we lose trust in our community or in humanity in general, if we imagine the next person to only care about themselves, basivally if we expect individualism from others, we lose hope of feeling a more community-oriented form of happiness! And unfortunately in many places that situation is expected, because people are often indeed individualistic

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                                        and what is the point of our collective community/humanity?

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                                          The meaning of your life is whatever you decide it to be. Your most fundamental motivations are inherently irrational/instinctual, but once you know what they are you can pursue them more deliberately.

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                                          can you tell us about yours? what is the meaning of your life? I know we may not resonate with it and think it's worthless but to you it has a meaning

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