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Plex is locking remote streaming behind a subscription in April

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  • ? Guest

    All these comments mentioning jellyfish and I haven’t see a single mention of emby. Is it considered bad or something? Because I switched over to it and I am liking it a lot better than plex so far

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    If you're leaving Plex because it's subscribeware, Emby is also subscribeware.

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      I agree, but having looked down this road, finding a quality external player that users will understand and is inexpensive is ... not easy.

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      $20 Walmart Onn 4k. Degoogle it if you want or just slap smarttube and jellyfin/plex on it.

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        Another user said that was because users were modifying the code to avoid supporting the project?
        I got a lifetime subscription relatively inexpensive and haven't had trouble

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        Who said that? I did a search in the thread and no Ody said anything about that that I saw

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          Linux (Flatpak)

          So, no, then.

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          Just use the god damn browser

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            Plexamp full features are only available with Plex Pass. Jellyfin doesn't have anything remotely comparable (though you could always just run Lyrion).

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            Was does it do better than say 'Symfonium'?

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              I believe emby went proprietary, and jellyfin is the fork that stayed open source. Naturally Lemmy prefers the FOSS one 😅

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              Ironically Plex users cling to their solution like it's life or death without considering the other side.
              Just like when someone mentions that Windows has it's place too and sometimes Linux isnt the be all and end all of all OS.

              The hyprocrisy of some users here...

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              • ripcord@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                Does Jellyfin do remote streaming?

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                If you can set it up? Yup.
                Behind CGNAT? Maybe you need to set up a relay or something to circumvent it.

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                  Alright, so I have had Jellyfin installed for years now, but my primary issue is that most devices myself or my users use lack official, readily-available clients. For example, the Samsung TV app is a developer mode install. Last I looked, nobody has put a build into the store.

                  I really want to use Jellyfin, but I feel like my users simply can't. I'm interested in others' experiences here that could help.

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                  I can speak from my experience with an Apple TV, the application "Infuse" works amazing with a jellyfin server. Though the application is essentially $1 month subscription, but works across all your apple devices, if you have any. I think it's worth it.

                  Additionally, the official app for Android TV worked pretty well when I last tried it on an Nvidia Shield

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                    It totally depends on how you expose it to the outside world. If it's exposed just like it is, it works fine with every device. If you put an authentication before it (e.g. Authelia), it can only be accessed by browsers from outside the network. That being said, it's not recommended to expose Jellyfin directly, because there are a ton of security flaws. Best practice is to use a VPN

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                    it can only be accessed by browsers from outside the network.

                    Weird.
                    If I nslookup my jellyfin URL it responds with an IP in my local IP range...
                    And it works both outside with a 2FA page and inside without...

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                      does jellyfin have a roku app?

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                      You should ditch Roku amyway considering the posts I have seen here on lemmy.

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                        Well, looks like my decision to stick with Kodi and never bother with Plex is about to pay dividends.

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                        The equivalent to Plex is Jellyfin I think, Plex can be used as a media server for Kodi.

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                          They don’t even have the excuse

                          just for ref, I'm not downvoting you. They do offer some things that cost them dev/money/time. And some of those things are pain points on Jellyfin.

                          They give you SSL and dynamic DNS style stuff behind the scenes. They give you a remote service that tells you if you're remotely visible. They cache the tvdb and manage some subscriptions for EPG and do a pretty good job partnering with (and presumably caching) open subtitles.

                          None of that makes up for their rug-pulling bullshit.

                          You used to be able to download shit to your phone then become a local server so other people on your local network could watch off your device.

                          You used to be able to run 3rd party plugins improving libraries and storing off youtube meta

                          They're scrapping watch together

                          They're scrapping free remote

                          They're spiraling the drain... But I won't miss them, I'll miss what they once were.

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                          They also offer free tunneling for people that can't port-forward because they are locked behind cgnat. To be fair, the tunneling is limited to potato quality 2mbps bitrate, but that is a significant cost to them still

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                            We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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                            I’ve been using Plex many years. I abandoned it about 1-2 years ago when they began their enshittification journey. Now I see they are continuing to double down on being assholes.

                            They do not need any more resources to allow people to use what already exists. Most people run their own servers, and, they track all that by the way. Hence why people moved away from it.

                            Don’t give them your money. Let them rot. They fucked their user base who built them.

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                              Ironically Plex users cling to their solution like it's life or death without considering the other side.
                              Just like when someone mentions that Windows has it's place too and sometimes Linux isnt the be all and end all of all OS.

                              The hyprocrisy of some users here...

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                              The problem with Jellyfin is that it's not a viable alternative for people hosting a Plex server for their family and friends. If you are the only 8ne using your server it's fine, but Jellyfin doesn't have working apps for every platform, and the ones that have a Jellyfin client available are not nearly as user friendly.

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                                sometimes good software is worth paying for

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                                Yes. I have a lifetime Plex pass, and I donated to Jellyfin as well. Looking forward to the day I can uninstall Plex and no longer worry about them potentially giving my data to Media companies so they can sue for piracy

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                                • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                                  Why would anyone even used Plex since we have jellyfin?

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                                  For working subtitles

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                                  • appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                                    Was does it do better than say 'Symfonium'?

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                                    Disclaimer: Plexamp used to be great, but it's stagnated badly. It was a good reason to buy plex pass at one point, though I don't think it's worth it now.

                                    I'm not familiar with Symfonium, but the major defining thing with plexamp is the DJ features for exploring your local music library.

                                    Unfortunately, a few months back Tidal support was removed from Plexamp and that was kind of a deal breaker because now it's only local library, and its "killer app" feature was using the DJ mixes in conjunction with Tidal to do real time mixes with your local and streaming music together.

                                    I've switched to using Lyrion instead, along with the Blissmix and "Don't Stop the Music" plugins with LastFM support. It integrates with Tidal, Deezer, or Qobuz (and I think Spotify, but not sure, I only use hifi streaming services). They work similarly, and in some ways better because you have full control over Blissmix's functionality for chroma, timbre, tempo, album and track repeats, and more. Also, Lyrion can stream directly over DLNA to a client, whereas Plexamp was just Airplay/Bluetooth/Google Cast (I have Apple stuff, but Airplay is terrible quality).

                                    It's sad, but plexamp is just my "local download" player now on my phone for when I'm driving, since it downconverts flac to Opus at higher quality than MP3 and at smaller sizes.

                                    I highly recommend trying out Lyrion. I've used nearly everything for music in the past, including even having a year of Roon, but Lyrion has replaced pretty much everything.

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                                      Plexamp full features are only available with Plex Pass. Jellyfin doesn't have anything remotely comparable (though you could always just run Lyrion).

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                                      Have you tried Symfonium? I liked Plexamp too, but I think Symfonium is even better, and it's compatible with just about any music server.

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                                        Have you tried Symfonium? I liked Plexamp too, but I think Symfonium is even better, and it's compatible with just about any music server.

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                                        See my previous comment, I'm 100% on board with Lyrion server and client these days.

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                                          Well, looks like my decision to stick with Kodi and never bother with Plex is about to pay dividends.

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                                          Kodi and Plex do different things, both of them organize your media and give you a pretty interface to access it, but Kodi is a program running locally and Plex is a webservice that you can access remotely. Jellyfin is the open source program that does the same thing as Plex, i.e. a media server manager that can be accessed remotely through a web interface.

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