Plex is locking remote streaming behind a subscription in April
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We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.
I'm surprised by the resistance to Jellyfin in this thread. If you are using Plex, you're already savvy enough to use bittorrent and probably the *arrs. If you can configure that stuff, Jellyfin is absolutely something you can handle. If you like Docker, there's good projects out there. If you're like me and you don't understand Docker, use Swizzin community edition. If you can install Ubuntu or Debian, and run the Swizzin script, you're in business.
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Unless Jellyfin becomes more plug and play Plex will be fine. I like Jellyfin but there is a reason Plex is still around. People are willing to pay for how user friendly it is. Every time I've reinstalled Plex it just works with no issues. I can literally set it up at a friend's house once and never have an issue ever.
With jellyfin Its just never been that experience.
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Setting jellyfin up is for the technically inclined, i'll agree there, but once deployed I don't really see where Plex fundamentally excels over Jellyfin?
You open the app, app shows library, you click on desired media item, desired media item plays.
What am i missing?Some movies just refused to play for me. Subtitles for certain releases just straight up wouldn't load on my lg TV, and then instead of nice picture subtitles I got shitty looking ones.
Idk... I ran it in docker and just assumed it'd all work but it doesn't.
Also, I really like that plex stores you're watched state on their server. I lost a jellyfin db once and had to remember what shows I was watching. There's not a good sync to cloud or something feature for that... Yet another container and solution I have to stand up aside from my media
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Do you know how to get intro skipping to work? I’ve reinstalled the latest version of Jellyfin for testing and have the Media Segments Provider plugin installed, but there still seems to be no intro skipping button on any clients. People in this thread keep telling me it exists but outside of this thread there appears to be no evidence it exists.
It's been a while since that I set this up, so take this with a grain of salt. I have these two plugins installed:
- Chapter Segments Provider
- The older Intro Skipper
I'm honestly not sure if I even need both - maybe the Chapter Segments Provider is unnecessary, even though it's official and newer. I don't understand exactly how it works from the docs.
However, Intro Skipper gives you a new scheduled task named "Detect and Analyze Media Segments". Use this to extract metadata about media segments from your library.
Now that the server knows about some media segments you need a client that can handle them. I've had success with the Android TV App (check the settings) and the Web interface should support them too.
I didn't need to configure anything aside from that, as far as I can remember.
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We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.
I've said it for years that Plex is shit because of their license and the fact that you have no control everyone said no it's fine it's my media fucking look at it now
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Alas my TV (LG WebOS 2) doesn't have an application for Jellyfin, or I'd have switched years ago
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Dammit, my friend just said he would give me access to his file server, all I have to do is install Plex. Presumably this announcement means that will become impossible without a subscription.
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How do you set up HTTPS? I would like to encrypt the communication between my tailscale devices and my homeserver. Is it just a matter of using Let's Encrypt with Nginx?
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Not in the way you’re probably thinking, no. The VPN (like Proton) will be isolating devices from each other. This is by design, so you don’t end up in situations like different customers seeing each other on the network.
Your router might be able to act as a VPN host. This would allow you to connect to your home network from anywhere, and use it just like you would use a service like Proton. And if your home network is set to allow devices to see each other, then you could see your Jellyfin server.
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Not in the way you’re probably thinking, no. The VPN (like Proton) will be isolating devices from each other. This is by design, so you don’t end up in situations like different customers seeing each other on the network.
Your router might be able to act as a VPN host. This would allow you to connect to your home network from anywhere, and use it just like you would use a service like Proton. And if your home network is set to allow devices to see each other, then you could see your Jellyfin server.
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Alas my TV (LG WebOS 2) doesn't have an application for Jellyfin, or I'd have switched years ago
Is there an emby app available or Kodi? The base of Jellyfin should work in either. Plug and play as far as I'm aware with maybe some issues for certain versions.
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I'm surprised by the resistance to Jellyfin in this thread. If you are using Plex, you're already savvy enough to use bittorrent and probably the *arrs. If you can configure that stuff, Jellyfin is absolutely something you can handle. If you like Docker, there's good projects out there. If you're like me and you don't understand Docker, use Swizzin community edition. If you can install Ubuntu or Debian, and run the Swizzin script, you're in business.
Me too. Docker isn't hard if you use a compose file. It's easy to read syntax.
Linux server.io has great documentation for their images.
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How do you set up HTTPS? I would like to encrypt the communication between my tailscale devices and my homeserver. Is it just a matter of using Let's Encrypt with Nginx?
I use Caddy as a reverse proxy.
It's literally a tiny bit of code and I now have Jellyfin running with a let's encrypt cert...
reverse_proxy 192.168.1.1:8096 }``` -
Good to know. Being able to run both at the same time will probably help ease the transition.
I main Jellyfin now. I still have Plex for one device that has no Jellyfin client available. But indeed they run side by side sharing the same media.
Worth doing as Plex will keep getting shitter
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They seem to be getting a lot of hate for this, but Plex is not FOSS... They have the roots but they currently have like 100 paid employees and are trying to make a business out of it. They have to do something to make money to pay people every month. My $75 10 years ago isn't going to do much for that... The fact that they've made it this far without folding is impressive.
Yep, it's something that more people need to consider to keep their free (as in the source code is not a prisoner) software going
It looks like jellyfin costs ~$500/MONTH just for their hosting fees: https://opencollective.com/jellyfin
If everyone using jellyfin contributed $1/month, I bet that would be covered
(No, I'm not affiliated with them)
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My dude if you are connecting from outside your local network you are "exposed" to the Internet in some way. What magic are you thinking Plex is doing? Is someone hand deliverying the packets via USPS?
In some way is different from directly, on Plex you're behind a relay server so it's akin to being behind a VPS running Authentik/Authelia in front of the service on your home. Compromising the relay server does not necessarily compromises your home server, so it's not direct like putting Jellyfin on a reverse Proxy would be.
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And somehow you think that Plex isn't exposing your server to the Internet for streaming while not on your local network?
Okay there Mr. Madison.
It's not, not directly at least, and that's what everyone is ignoring here. You probably understand the value on Authelia/Authentik but you're failing to see that the Plex relay server is taking that same mantle here, so even if someone managed to compromise the relay server it's still not on your home server, whereas exposing jellyfin directly to the internet only requires one service to be compromised.
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Yes exactly. What do you think plex is doing?
Using a relay server to separate online from home connection
