25 arrested in global hit against AI-generated child sexual abuse material
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Okay, and those drawings are my problem.
https://www.icenews.is/2010/07/28/unsavoury-cartoon-ruling-sparks-debate-in-sweden/
It's not clear cut that those are okay.
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If an underage AI character, is portrayed in say a movie or games, is that wrong? Seems like a very slippery slope.
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It doesn't matter if it's accurate or not as long as pedos can get off to it, so just keep going until they can. According to our definition of what a pedophile is, though, it would likely be accurate.
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But if it's not accurate, will pedos jerk off to it?
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"Okay" in what sense? If you mean morally, then I think that's pretty clear cut. If you mean legally, then that's just a technicality.
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Probably not, but that's irrelevant. The point is that no one needs to harm a child to find out if the output is sufficiently arousing.
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totally ethical thousands of photos of drawings of children in sexual contexts
Legality is just a technicality
Okay there bud.
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But how does it get more authentic without actual input if what's accurate.
It's not enough to tell and AI that's somethings wrong. You have to also tell it what was right.
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There’s a few in the White House.
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Why would "thousands of photos of drawings of children in sexual contexts" be unethical?
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It doesn't need to get more authentic, it just needs to get more arousing, and we have a perfectly ethical way to measure that. You tell the AI it was "right" if the pedos you show it to get aroused.
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Because they're barely legal in certain places?
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Plenty of moral things are illegal or barely legal in certain places. For example, homosexual adults having consensual sex with each other in their own home. I assume you don't think that's unethical or immoral?
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I'm not saying legality is ethical.
I'm saying there's no practical way to assemble that much material without exploration at some level.
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This relies on the idea that "outlet" is not harmful. It might be encouraging even but who do you think even would ever study this to help us know here. Can you imagine the scientists who'd have to be leading studies like this - incredibly grim and difficult subject with high likelihood that no one would listen to you anyway.
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Nah the argument that this could real "pedophile culture" and even encourage real activities is really not that far fetched and could be even true. Without very convincing studies do you take a chance where real kids could soon suffer? And I mean the studies would have to be really convincing.
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There have been controversies about that sort of thing.
I know the Oscar-winning movie The Tin Drum as an example. The book by Günter Grass is a very serious, highly celebrated piece of German post-war literature. It takes place around WW2. The protagonist has the mind of an adult in the body of a child. I guess the idea is that he is the other way around from most people?
The movie was banned in Ontario and Oklahoma, for a time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tin_Drum_(film)#Censorship
With European societies shifting right, I doubt such a movie could be made today, but we aren't at a point where it would be outright illegal.
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Good to have data points as reference points to at least guide the discussion.