Used Tesla prices tumble as embarrassed owners look to sell
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Take it from an old man, at a certain point you will grow beyond having to feel "embarassed" by your former self, because your ego won't be tied to it.
Old man here as well. I follow the doctrine of non-repudiation: I did a lot of stupid things when I was young. But I own them and don't hate my former self for doing them. Mind you, I didn't hurt anyone (except emotionally, and not intentionally) and wasn't a criminal. If that were different, maybe I'd have to process it differently.
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The year 2100 will see eugenics universally established. In past ages, the law governing the survival of the fittest roughly weeded out the less desirable strains. Then man’s new sense of pity began to interfere with the ruthless workings of nature. As a result, we continue to keep alive and to breed the unfit. The only method compatible with our notions of civilization and the race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilization and the deliberate guidance of the mating instinct. Several European countries and a number of states of the American Union sterilize the criminal and the insane. This is not sufficient. The trend of opinion among eugenists is that we must make marriage more difficult. Certainly no one who is not a desirable parent should be permitted to produce progeny. A century from now it will no more occur to a normal person to mate with a person eugenically unfit than to marry a habitual criminal.
Oof, that's a tough read.
It was a common view, especially among progressives, from the late 1890s to the start of WW2. The temperance movement embraced eugenics, so did the family-planning movement, and through it, early feminism.
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I have read a number of comments from people with illnesses or other issues that are genetic, saying they don't want to pass their problems onto the next generation.
So, bizarrely enough, there is a certain amount of eugenics happening, it's just purely voluntary.
It's the top-down nature of the eugenics movement that made it so morally repugnant. "We decide who's fit to have kids."
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Fuck every Tesla owner. Unironically, they knew what they bought.
Downvotes coming from Telsa owners who have buyer's remose for giving a Nazi money, i assume.
Only now the chickens are coming home to roost and they wanna get out, not before though. When Elons stock was up they were happy to have the car.
This is why we see vandalism as well on these
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Old man here as well. I follow the doctrine of non-repudiation: I did a lot of stupid things when I was young. But I own them and don't hate my former self for doing them. Mind you, I didn't hurt anyone (except emotionally, and not intentionally) and wasn't a criminal. If that were different, maybe I'd have to process it differently.
Probably not that much different tbh.
I think you can understand something without embracing it or condoning it. I did a few bad things, it's understandable that kids with that age and upbringing will, as long as you own what you did, put right what you can and atone for the rest, there's no need to hate yourself.
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What are your thoughts on doing a Nazi salute when seeing a cybertruck? Is it okay because we are mocking them? Or is it just never okay to do a Nazi salute?
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What are your thoughts on doing a Nazi salute when seeing a cybertruck? Is it okay because we are mocking them? Or is it just never okay to do a Nazi salute?
don't do a nazi salute, you'll just end up making it socially acceptable. Middle finger instead.
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What are your thoughts on doing a Nazi salute when seeing a cybertruck? Is it okay because we are mocking them? Or is it just never okay to do a Nazi salute?
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Sure, but not everyone is using Ublock? One could argue that they should be, but what's wrong with offering an alternative?
I never said there was anything wrong. I was letting them know ublock works just fine on the Atlantic. Imagine that, the words I wrote were what I meant. You people are so fucking weird reading so much into the simplest sentence.
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Only now the chickens are coming home to roost and they wanna get out, not before though. When Elons stock was up they were happy to have the car.
This is why we see vandalism as well on these
"The working class folk who can easily afford luxury cars, you're just mad they got a Tesla and not a Lambo."
If I had the money for a Tesla I'd be better off in general.
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look at the other reply from psi, trying to paint tesla owners as part of us poor workin class folk.
Its fuckin nuttier than squirrel turds.
And they claim we're the idiots when we can see the history and facts and have memories longer than a gold fish.
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It's the top-down nature of the eugenics movement that made it so morally repugnant. "We decide who's fit to have kids."
Fair enough.
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don't do a nazi salute, you'll just end up making it socially acceptable. Middle finger instead.
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And they claim we're the idiots when we can see the history and facts and have memories longer than a gold fish.
its infuriating being a person who remembers history in the world of social media where people make up history on the spot to justify and protect themselves.
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That's the part I never understood. Even if you weren't a Musk fan boy and before Musk showed his true colors, Telsa has always, ALWAYS been shit quality. I remember back in 2015, or so, there was a video of someone finally getting their Telsa and it had a massive crack running the length of the driver side A-pillar, yet they just ignored it.
If you were an EV early adopter, Tesla is the only brand that delivered the range.
So, they were the only game in town for a lot of buyers.
Not nearly as big a problem now. Tesla has real competition which is why sales are crashing.
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Who will service those when Tesla goes out of business? Where will you get parts? Yeah, it's time to jump ship
There are already aftermarket batteries. The biggest problem would be autobody panels.
That said, while I hope Tesla stock continues to crash, not much chance of them going out of business.
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Don't know about that. Leaf has been pretty important as well.
Even now, the Leaf only goes 200 miles. Less than a 2018 Model 3. Not good enough.
I agree, Tesla was the viable option fora long time. The charging network is part of that even still.
The NACS connector is a big deal.
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Why the fuck are you defending this shit?
Also I am tired of hearing about how Musk only recently went insane, dude has been off the rails for as long as I can remember.
Eccentric billionaire? My ass dude, he was an asshole and insane always for anyone paying at least a little bit of attention.
It just finally caught up to him and now everyone wants to cry wolf that has been supporting him? Fuck off.
I do not have a problem with people owning Teslas sold before 2020 or so. Even buying an older one used is no big deal in my opinion. If you buy a 2021 Tesla today, none of that money goes to Musk. You are not agreeing with him. You are not propping him up.
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Even now, the Leaf only goes 200 miles. Less than a 2018 Model 3. Not good enough.
I agree, Tesla was the viable option fora long time. The charging network is part of that even still.
The NACS connector is a big deal.
Range is important, but so is cost. Teslas are too expensive for Leaf owners.
My 7 seat EV only does at most 150 miles. But even now, two years later, there isn't anything else that comfortably fits 7 adults. Let alone not over twice the price. So 200 miles seams ok to me.
I agree standard charger connectors are important. But CHAdeMO is standard, just not in Europe or North America. Can't blame the Leaf for not knowing that would happen.
The Leaf is also one of the very few cars, least in the UK, which can be using bidirectionally.
https://www.indra.co.uk/v2g/I don't own a Leaf, but I respect what they did. You see loads of them here.
