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    They've decided to incorporate ChatGPT.

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      They've decided to incorporate ChatGPT.

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      Yeah DDG has been serving up AI slop lately, it's really annoying.

      Ducky see, ducky do. It's kind of pathetic...

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        I switched to using searxng instances a while ago. Its getting the job done.

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          I'm open for alternative suggestions. The ease of wiping browser data while excluding preferred sites in duckduckgo is really nice.

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            I mean, this seems like a really stupid gripe. You can completely disable it for your searches: https://i.xno.dev/FUHSj.png

            In addition, it gives you a way to interface with ChatGPT without an account, or using the API, and maintaining privacy... I see this as an absolute win. They stay competitive by including AI for people who can't live without, while making it completely optional. Offering duck.ai is a smart move, too. I just don't see the issue here.

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              They've decided to incorporate ChatGPT.

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              Duck search has never been good at actually finding results.

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                I'm open for alternative suggestions. The ease of wiping browser data while excluding preferred sites in duckduckgo is really nice.

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                searxng, I use disroot.

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                  On second thought, maybe they're doing the right thing. Offering what the competition does with improved privacy and the option to switch it off completely. I personally think LLMs are pretty bad at real-life queries, but ultimately the users will have to decide.

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                    I mean, this seems like a really stupid gripe. You can completely disable it for your searches: https://i.xno.dev/FUHSj.png

                    In addition, it gives you a way to interface with ChatGPT without an account, or using the API, and maintaining privacy... I see this as an absolute win. They stay competitive by including AI for people who can't live without, while making it completely optional. Offering duck.ai is a smart move, too. I just don't see the issue here.

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                    I use it if I do not have my own server running. There are many times I am looking for a word or info that is not very compatible with a search engine but is effective for AI.

                    I think there are a lot of people that just do not understand AI, and how to use it effectively. There seems to be a user filter where low Machiavellian individuals with poor abstractive thinking skills struggle to understand the subjective nature of the world in every space and how all of our collective incorrectness is present in AI too.

                    Perhaps they only played with very small models of the Llama 2 era, which were much harder to effectively use. Or maybe they played with llama.cpp before April of last year when the special tokens were incorrectly defaulted to GPT2 tokens for all models in the first ~260 positions.

                    I forget the name of the issue, but seem to recall there is some kind of unsolved database indexing paradox that is why search engines suck now, but that is a vague memory. Likely AI is just the whipping boy for people that are getting left behind by technology they are unable to learn effectively.

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                      I use ducks AI chat to help me with small tasks and its honestly pretty great. Always worked and has provided me with useful results.

                      They claim its anonymous, maybe they are lying, maybe they are not. I make sure to rinse anything I put in there first just in case.

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                        I'm open for alternative suggestions. The ease of wiping browser data while excluding preferred sites in duckduckgo is really nice.

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                        You can achieve a similar thing in Firefox with auto delete browsing data in settings, then adding excluded websites.

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                          On second thought, maybe they're doing the right thing. Offering what the competition does with improved privacy and the option to switch it off completely. I personally think LLMs are pretty bad at real-life queries, but ultimately the users will have to decide.

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                          They've helped me figure out some nested spreadsheet formulas that were pretty complicated to me.

                          What typically happens is that they mess up, but their malfunctioning code still has something in it that I hadn't considered, which leads me in the right direction. They have their place in terms of helpfulness when you can't or don't want to wait for someone.

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                            I use it if I do not have my own server running. There are many times I am looking for a word or info that is not very compatible with a search engine but is effective for AI.

                            I think there are a lot of people that just do not understand AI, and how to use it effectively. There seems to be a user filter where low Machiavellian individuals with poor abstractive thinking skills struggle to understand the subjective nature of the world in every space and how all of our collective incorrectness is present in AI too.

                            Perhaps they only played with very small models of the Llama 2 era, which were much harder to effectively use. Or maybe they played with llama.cpp before April of last year when the special tokens were incorrectly defaulted to GPT2 tokens for all models in the first ~260 positions.

                            I forget the name of the issue, but seem to recall there is some kind of unsolved database indexing paradox that is why search engines suck now, but that is a vague memory. Likely AI is just the whipping boy for people that are getting left behind by technology they are unable to learn effectively.

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                              Am I the only one noticably receiving more adds on duck duck go last few days/week?

                              I feel like the adds and the AI response thing make it much worse.

                              Have to scroll a whole screen untill I see a organic result.

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                                Am I the only one noticably receiving more adds on duck duck go last few days/week?

                                I feel like the adds and the AI response thing make it much worse.

                                Have to scroll a whole screen untill I see a organic result.

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                                You see ads?

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                                  I mean, this seems like a really stupid gripe. You can completely disable it for your searches: https://i.xno.dev/FUHSj.png

                                  In addition, it gives you a way to interface with ChatGPT without an account, or using the API, and maintaining privacy... I see this as an absolute win. They stay competitive by including AI for people who can't live without, while making it completely optional. Offering duck.ai is a smart move, too. I just don't see the issue here.

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                                  Defaults matter. Every time you open a private browsing window, that's what you're going to get. Every time you use LibreWolf or Firefox Focus or any other browser that disables/clears cookies by default (which is a good practice), that's what you're going to get.

                                  I don't want anything I search for going into OpenAI. Ever. I'd feel fine about this if they hosted their own models.

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                                    Am I the only one noticably receiving more adds on duck duck go last few days/week?

                                    I feel like the adds and the AI response thing make it much worse.

                                    Have to scroll a whole screen untill I see a organic result.

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                                    Hey! I remember people saying the same thing about a different search engine!

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                                      Defaults matter. Every time you open a private browsing window, that's what you're going to get. Every time you use LibreWolf or Firefox Focus or any other browser that disables/clears cookies by default (which is a good practice), that's what you're going to get.

                                      I don't want anything I search for going into OpenAI. Ever. I'd feel fine about this if they hosted their own models.

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                                      This. I fucking hate that it's opt out. Every goddamn time I open Firefox and run a search I gotta disable the stupid AI bullshit.

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                                        This. I fucking hate that it's opt out. Every goddamn time I open Firefox and run a search I gotta disable the stupid AI bullshit.

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                                        I don't think it AI's your search immediately. It just shows you to option to generate an AI response. At least that's how it's been working for me. It's not doing anything unless you hit that button.

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                                          They've decided to incorporate ChatGPT.

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                                          “Educational purposes”.. because everyone knows it’s good educational practice to spout utter bullshit at people wanting information.

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