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  • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

    For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

    Also note there was a recent license change, which is why I didn't say 'Open source'. You can make your own judgements about that here:

    https://docs.openwebui.com/license/

    See the link in the post for all the changes, there were too many to list and lots of quality of life improvements from what I can tell.

    jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    Urgh I didn't know about the license change, that's a bummer. How come every project with 'Open' in it's name goes a similar route and becomes not open?

    Now it's freeware with available source, but you can't build anything on top of it.

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    • jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ [email protected]

      Urgh I didn't know about the license change, that's a bummer. How come every project with 'Open' in it's name goes a similar route and becomes not open?

      Now it's freeware with available source, but you can't build anything on top of it.

      J This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      Because they realize they have enough user base to not slum it for free anymore. A lot of projects are fine just getting the notoriety and consultation dollars, but some people are just looking to build things and flip it for money later. It ebbs and flows over time in either direction. I'd say right now most projects are on the "we're for sale" side of things.

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      • jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ [email protected]

        Urgh I didn't know about the license change, that's a bummer. How come every project with 'Open' in it's name goes a similar route and becomes not open?

        Now it's freeware with available source, but you can't build anything on top of it.

        S This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        It's still very permissive, you just can't remove their branding.

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        • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

          For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

          Also note there was a recent license change, which is why I didn't say 'Open source'. You can make your own judgements about that here:

          https://docs.openwebui.com/license/

          See the link in the post for all the changes, there were too many to list and lots of quality of life improvements from what I can tell.

          crumbgrabber@lemm.eeC This user is from outside of this forum
          crumbgrabber@lemm.eeC This user is from outside of this forum
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          Their stated reason for the change was the fact that In the great ai gold rush people who never contributed to the project Simply grabbed it, and without contributing anything to the project did nothing except stripped the branding and then go sell it. kind of a crappy thing to do but hey it's the Internet. I don't have any firsthand experience so I can't say for sure what the deal was. we've seen The same thing with forks of V s code turned into all kinds of things.

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          • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

            For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

            Also note there was a recent license change, which is why I didn't say 'Open source'. You can make your own judgements about that here:

            https://docs.openwebui.com/license/

            See the link in the post for all the changes, there were too many to list and lots of quality of life improvements from what I can tell.

            C This user is from outside of this forum
            C This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6

            For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

            How is this simple summary missing from the project page itself? Was that so hard?

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            • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

              For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

              Also note there was a recent license change, which is why I didn't say 'Open source'. You can make your own judgements about that here:

              https://docs.openwebui.com/license/

              See the link in the post for all the changes, there were too many to list and lots of quality of life improvements from what I can tell.

              paequ2@lemmy.todayP This user is from outside of this forum
              paequ2@lemmy.todayP This user is from outside of this forum
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              Mommy, that source available project is claiming to be Open Source™️! 🚨 🚓

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              • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

                Also note there was a recent license change, which is why I didn't say 'Open source'. You can make your own judgements about that here:

                https://docs.openwebui.com/license/

                See the link in the post for all the changes, there were too many to list and lots of quality of life improvements from what I can tell.

                paequ2@lemmy.todayP This user is from outside of this forum
                paequ2@lemmy.todayP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                Open Source, permissive! Do what ever you want with my code!

                No, not like that!

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                • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                  For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

                  Also note there was a recent license change, which is why I didn't say 'Open source'. You can make your own judgements about that here:

                  https://docs.openwebui.com/license/

                  See the link in the post for all the changes, there were too many to list and lots of quality of life improvements from what I can tell.

                  N This user is from outside of this forum
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                  lmao at an LLM project whining about anyone "taking our work, stripping the branding, selling it as their own, and giving nothing back".

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                  • C [email protected]

                    For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

                    How is this simple summary missing from the project page itself? Was that so hard?

                    eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE This user is from outside of this forum
                    eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #10

                    Because that's a release page. The first paragraph in the readme tells you what open webui is.

                    https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui

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                    • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                      For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

                      Also note there was a recent license change, which is why I didn't say 'Open source'. You can make your own judgements about that here:

                      https://docs.openwebui.com/license/

                      See the link in the post for all the changes, there were too many to list and lots of quality of life improvements from what I can tell.

                      regalpotoo@lemmy.worldR This user is from outside of this forum
                      regalpotoo@lemmy.worldR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      The license change literally just prevents you from stripping their branding if you have more than 50 users a month - this is more permissive than the MPL that Firefox is licensed under

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                      • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                        For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

                        Also note there was a recent license change, which is why I didn't say 'Open source'. You can make your own judgements about that here:

                        https://docs.openwebui.com/license/

                        See the link in the post for all the changes, there were too many to list and lots of quality of life improvements from what I can tell.

                        D This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        Another GitHub project with no screenshots

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                          Another GitHub project with no screenshots

                          otters_raft@lemmy.caO This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Here is their demo gif:

                          More info here: https://docs.openwebui.com/

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                          • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                            Here is their demo gif:

                            More info here: https://docs.openwebui.com/

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                            Oh, it does show up on desktop, not on mobile however.

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                            • J [email protected]

                              Because they realize they have enough user base to not slum it for free anymore. A lot of projects are fine just getting the notoriety and consultation dollars, but some people are just looking to build things and flip it for money later. It ebbs and flows over time in either direction. I'd say right now most projects are on the "we're for sale" side of things.

                              nagaram@startrek.websiteN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              An AI project that's ultimately just trying to cash out? Say it ain't so!

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                                It's still very permissive, you just can't remove their branding.

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                                One of the main problems is that this is targeted at forks to limit their possibility (Since you can't really technically call it something else following the license, and they may come after you via trademarks if you retain it).

                                OnlyOffice also do this, they prevent changing specific logo use (via sketch interpretation of the AGPLv3) then also prohibit you from using their logo.

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                                • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                                  For those unfamiliar, Open WebUI is a self-hosted AI interface, which you can use with local models with Ollama, OpenRouter, etc.

                                  Also note there was a recent license change, which is why I didn't say 'Open source'. You can make your own judgements about that here:

                                  https://docs.openwebui.com/license/

                                  See the link in the post for all the changes, there were too many to list and lots of quality of life improvements from what I can tell.

                                  kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Ngl I really wish there was a decent way to hook into third party “offerings” like duck.ai. I don’t have the spare GPUs to run anything at any kind of decent speed.

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                                  • kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK [email protected]

                                    Ngl I really wish there was a decent way to hook into third party “offerings” like duck.ai. I don’t have the spare GPUs to run anything at any kind of decent speed.

                                    otters_raft@lemmy.caO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    It is possible to connect it to third party platforms (open router, various paid platforms), but I didn't figure out a way to connect it to duck.ai

                                    That's the only one that I still go to a separate site for, and I can't maintain the history as a result

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                                    • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                                      It is possible to connect it to third party platforms (open router, various paid platforms), but I didn't figure out a way to connect it to duck.ai

                                      That's the only one that I still go to a separate site for, and I can't maintain the history as a result

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                                      I was digging around and it seems there are some iffy api translators for duck.ai such as https://github.com/HuggingBear/DuckDuckGo-AI

                                      But I’ve not tried this yet, so no idea how it works.

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                                      • regalpotoo@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                        The license change literally just prevents you from stripping their branding if you have more than 50 users a month - this is more permissive than the MPL that Firefox is licensed under

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                                        Wrong, Firefox allows rebranding.

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                                        • jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ [email protected]

                                          Urgh I didn't know about the license change, that's a bummer. How come every project with 'Open' in it's name goes a similar route and becomes not open?

                                          Now it's freeware with available source, but you can't build anything on top of it.

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                                          Easy, because they want the social credibility of being open source, but also later, when the project gets big, they want to dictate exactly who uses it and how.

                                          If you care about how your software is used to this degree -- don't open source it! Every open source package I have ever made has come with a permissive license, because I want people to be able to use it however they wish. That's actual freedom. Unfortunately, a subset of "however they wish" can also be "used to bomb Gaza", but that is the cost of liberty and freedom. You have to take the good with the bad.

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