What are your thoughts on AI?
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True, I just assumed that reflection was required in order to give the AI the prompt, and the AI was mainly used to format it correctly. I might be talking out of my ass here since I haven't used it extensively.
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I think it's fine if used in moderation. I use mine for doing the mindless day-to-day stuff like writing cover letters or business-type emails. I don't use it for anything creative though, just to free myself up to do that stuff.
I also suck at coding so I use it to write little scripts and stuff. Or at least to do the framework and then I finish them off.
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Generative ai is just an advanced chat bot, a toy that uses too much power to be efficient.
My personal experience is that any output has to be double checked and edited. It would be better to just do whatever I asked it to do from the beginning. When it can fact check itself and cite sources, then it might become useful.
An ai that can comb through vast amounts of data and give an output of specific data relevant to the question presented than a generative ai might be useful. But it can’t analyze data very well at the current moment. It hallucinates too much.
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AI art being inherently “plagiarising”
Yes it is, simply due to the nature of the "training"/"learning" process, which is learning in name alone. If you know how this mathematical process works you know the machine's definition of success is how well it's output matches the data it was trained with. The machine is effectively trying to encrypt it's data base on it's nodes. I would recommend you inform yourself on how the "training" process actually works, down to the mathematical level.
AI using as much energy’s crypto , the AI = crypto mindset in general
AI is often push by the same people who pushed NFTs and whatnot, so this is somewhat understandable. And yes, AI consumes a lot of energy and water. Maybe not as much as crypto, but still, not something we can afford to use for mindless entertainment in our current climate catastrophe.
AI art “having no soul”
Yup. AI "art" works by finding pixel patterns that repeat with a given token. Due to it's nature, it can only repeat patterns which it identified in it's training data. Now, we have all heard of the saying "An image in worth a thousand words". This saying is quite the understatement. For one to describe an image down to the last detail, such detail that someone who never saw the image could perfectly replicate it, one how need more than a thousand words, as evidenced by computer image files, since these are basically what was just described. The training data never has enough detail to describe the whole image in such detail and therefore it is incapable of doing anything too specific.
Art is very personal, the more of yourself you put into a piece, the more unique and "soulful" it will be. The more of the work you delegate to the machine, the less of yourself you can put into the piece, and if 100% of the image generation was made by the machine, which is in turn simply calculating an average image that matches the prompt, then nothing of you is in the piece. It is nothing more than the maths that created it.
Simple text descriptions do not give the human meaningful control over the final piece, and that is why pretty much any artist worth their tittle is not using it.
Also, the irony that we are automating the arts, something which people enjoy doing, instead of the soul degrading jobs nobody wants to do, should not be lost on us.
“Peops use AI to do «BAD THING» , therefour AI ISZ THE DEVILLLL ”
It is true that AI is being used in horrible was that will take sometime to adapt, it is simply that the negative usages of AI have more visibility than the positive usages. As a matter of fact, this node network technology was already in use in many fields before the Chat-GPT induced AI hype train.
can’t trust anti AI peops to actually criticise the tech
Correct. It is well known that those who stem to financially benefit from the success of AI are more than willing to lie about it's true capabilities.
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As of now its overblown. Still a useful tool tho. Ive been using deepseek to help with resume formatting. Just dont let them do any actual writing for you or theyll make shit up. But for formatting theyre great. Feed it what you wrote, and ask to to clean it up without changing the text. Re read it to make sure it didnt change stuff anyway. Its also great at things like troubleshooting issues. Way better then just googling it. You can still run into hallucinations tho so be careful. I also reccomend avoiding any western AI and only use chinese AI. Its better and safer.
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“AI” is humanity’s greatest invention…? wtf lol
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Using AI like Deepseek is a lot easier than shifting through 50 search results, if the question is for a relatively new technology though then it usually doesn't work
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I love it for what I use it for which is research, speeding up scripting and code writing, resume building, paraphrashing stupidly long news articles, teaching me Spanish and Japanese, bypassing the bullshit that are what passes as search engines these days, and talking my anxiety down. They cut through the noise and boost my productivity.
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AI is the perfect tool to generate propaganda and fake-news on a massive scale. Humans may live in bubbles divorced from reality because of it.
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Capitalism will ruin any good opportunities with said technology. Much like every technology that preceeded it.
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I think that they're neat, they're development is fascinating to me, and that they have their utility. But I am sick of executive and marketing types sloppily cramming them into every corner of every service just so they can tell their shareholders that it's "powered by AI". So far, I'll use a page or app dedicated to chatting with the llm, or I've also found that GitHub copilot in vscode is pretty nifty sometimes for things like quickly generating docs that I can then just proofread and edit. But in most other applications and websites I don't use them at all or I'm forced to and the experience is worse. Recently, I've been having to work in Microsoft's power platform a bit for a client (help me). Almost every page in the entire platform has an AI chatbot on the side that's supposed to do some of the work around you. Don't use it. It fucks up your shit. Ask it to do something, it will change your flow or whatever you're working with with the wrong syntax that won't even compile 9/10 times, with no opportunity to undo, and the remaining 1/10 is logic errors. Ask it questions about the platform, not only will it not know anything, it will literally accuse you of not speaking English.
TL;DR I think they're neat and useful IF they're used responsibility and implemented well. Otherwise they are a nuisance excuse to use a buzzword at best or dangerous at worst
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https://nitter.privacydev.net/ai_curio/status/1564878372185989120AI consumes a lot of energy and water. Maybe not as much as crypto, but still, not something we can afford to use for mindless entertainment in our current climate catastrophe.
https://tb.opnxng.com/reachartwork/742453285743706112/re-ai-water-usage
https://blog.giovanh.com/blog/2024/08/14/is-ai-eating-all-the-energy-part-1-of-2/Activities like eating beef use more energy than AI models , therefour they contribute more to climate change (in whatever likely negligible ways compared to corporate entities like Shell , who we shoud focus on wen reversing climate change) than use of AI models . But there's no widespread moral panic over individual's beef consumption (closest you'll get are some kinds of vegans , but they stay fringe) compared to AI use
Crypto's exceptional bcus it's literally wasting energy with very limited use cases
Peops shouldn't be calling for death of an entire medium based on some thing subjective like its outputs being "soulless"
Simple text descriptions do not give the human meaningful control over the final piece, and that is why pretty much any artist worth their tittle is not using it.
What about AI-assisted art , which has more "human meaningful control" than simple (txt2img prompt|inpaint)ing then ?
Also, the irony that we are automating the arts, something which people enjoy doing, instead of the soul degrading jobs nobody wants to do, should not be lost on us.
Wasz initially onef those peops that didn't think art was automatable . Turns out I was wrong . Also not every artist enjoys every part of the process . Any one who ever does art in any serious capacity knows that , am sure some would find spending hours upon hours tweaking (pose|composition|colours|lighting placement|.*) before getting to the "fun parts" "soul degrading" . While AI art models doesn't automate everything , it can automate those with varying success
can’t trust anti AI peops to actually criticise the tech
Correct. It is well known that those who stem to financially benefit from the success of AI are more than willing to lie about it's true capabilities.
While I don't think you're wrong , that's not what I said
Wen I say can't trust anti AI art peops to criticise AI art tech , I'm including you . If you use AI "art" in scarequotes , you're part of the problem , most your criticisms are based on (things easily debunked|misinformation|subjectivities|.*)
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They make me want to summon the ghost of General Ludd from his grave.
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I’m in the sector, and there are legitimate time and effort savings when used correctly. Code refactoring gets a little smarter than a dumb script, boilerplate code is instantly generated, and real educational topics can be delved into and analyzed.
I don’t want to see it closed off, and I want the data used to train made public. These LLMs have capabilities older scripted systems can never match.
Eventually they will replace workers. Our society is too self-centered to make that a good thing.
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Kinda cool how much auto-correct and noise filters can do... kinda uncool to use the same as leverage against humanity.