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Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

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  • K [email protected]

    People make mods to be played surely, why bother using a platform if no one can play your mod from it.

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    #81

    ? Same reason people use shit platforms? I can't barely watch Twitch with 3 ads in a row every 30min and they still are the biggest streaming platform even when is shitty to the users and streamers. It's a community based platform unless the community move to other place they still be big because people is there.

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      Federation would allow you to only host mods not hosted at other servers, with some level of redundancy.

      Also, it could use a modding app with BitTorrent-like functionality, so that downloaders could share their copies as well.

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      So..old mods or mods for uninteresting and obscure games would eventually die because of zero seeders.

      I know there's no easy answer for this question but this would happen. Just try looking on the p2P scene for an unpopular or extremely niche tv show. There's usually zero or sometimes in a rare occasion less than 3 seeders

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      • M [email protected]

        Care to explain in what way?
        I've been a casual user of the side for a few years now and except the short waiting times for downloads and endorsement reminders there has been nothing to really frustrate me.

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        #83

        I haven't used it in the last several years, but from about 2014-2018 any time I tried to download, it required registration, and any time I tried to register, it just didn't work. It was some problem with the javascript in their site. Probably related to captcha or something. Yes, I tried multiple computers, multiple browsers, even tried registering on a library's computer.

        Looks like their site is less shit now, but it's still awful.

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          Welp. Almost all of the conversations I've read about this change have devolved into "hopefully the new owners don't enforce their political views."

          They always say shit like "if you don't like a mod, don't use it," but they can't wrap their heads around the idea that if they can't tolerate the (ex-)site owner exercising his own moral beliefs, they can find a different platform.

          Fun.

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          • tonytins@pawb.socialT [email protected]
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            #85

            80lv (3D industry news media) reports some digging on the company bought Nexus Mod.
            https://80.lv/articles/exclusive-nexus-mods-was-apparently-bought-by-a-shady-corporate-entity

            Not exaxtly noteworthy info there though, it's just some no name, 6 month old, likely VC-funded company with zero transparency.

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            • N [email protected]

              The problem with that it's not "wherever they like", it is github 99% of the time. It is easier to fix when github enshitifies completely, but it will still require fixing

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              #86

              If it works with any git platform, you have several alternatives + self hosting.

              The chokepoint is the index, but if the mod repo is up and you have the url by some other way, it should work

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              • K [email protected]

                If it works with any git platform, you have several alternatives + self hosting.

                The chokepoint is the index, but if the mod repo is up and you have the url by some other way, it should work

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                #87

                It does but it does so far as someone updates indices. It's easier with git, but someone still needs to do all of it.

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                • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                  If they make it $1 a month and it doesn't charge you for .months you don't download anything I'd be fine.

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                  #88

                  Unfortunately there are still bills to pay even if you don’t visit the site for months. Keeping the lights on is not free. So that is a very unlikely subscription model you’re describing.

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                    Unfortunately there are still bills to pay even if you don’t visit the site for months. Keeping the lights on is not free. So that is a very unlikely subscription model you’re describing.

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                    They have bills to pay even if I'm not a customer.

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                    • A [email protected]

                      Narrator: It wasn't.

                      At the very least the entity that bought it will not rely on donations and revenue from upgraded download speeds, so it will definitely enshittify further to some degree.

                      The problem is not capitalism, it's really us expecting shit to be free and rewarding good development and maintenance effort with thoughts and prayers.

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                      #90

                      Dude I've been premium for years. First sign of betrayal that will change though

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                      • radix@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                        Might be too late. They changed the policy a few years ago when they introduced mod packs. They didn't want entire packs to fail if one person pulled their mod, so total deletion was disabled.

                        Folks can still hide their mods and make new individual downloads impossible, but it's still there in the background.

                        (All this is from memory. I hope I'm wrong)

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                        I think there's a process for removing mods. The page disappears but if it was in a pack thay version will remain up until the pack author removes it.

                        It was not a welcomed change, people lost it.

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                        • T [email protected]

                          Welp. Almost all of the conversations I've read about this change have devolved into "hopefully the new owners don't enforce their political views."

                          They always say shit like "if you don't like a mod, don't use it," but they can't wrap their heads around the idea that if they can't tolerate the (ex-)site owner exercising his own moral beliefs, they can find a different platform.

                          Fun.

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                          Pretty much all platforms do this. It’s not a bad thing to want a big and established uncensored platform

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                          • D [email protected]

                            So..old mods or mods for uninteresting and obscure games would eventually die because of zero seeders.

                            I know there's no easy answer for this question but this would happen. Just try looking on the p2P scene for an unpopular or extremely niche tv show. There's usually zero or sometimes in a rare occasion less than 3 seeders

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                            I wonder if this could be solved on protocol level, i.e. automatically preserve objects with least redundancy, as known to the server.

                            Like if federated servers hold 50 copies of a file, it's likely not worthy of saving, but if there is only 1 or 2, it must be stored.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              Care to explain in what way?
                              I've been a casual user of the side for a few years now and except the short waiting times for downloads and endorsement reminders there has been nothing to really frustrate me.

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                              The folks who responded explained it better than I could have so I will deffer to them.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                Guy worked on the site for 24 years. Think he deserves some nice things himself (like reclaiming his life)

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                                Yeah he could have reached out to the community to find someone to run it who would act ethically.

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                                  Yeah he could have reached out to the community to find someone to run it who would act ethically.

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                                  You make it sound like the site has been destroyed and enshitefied. Do we have any proof of such so far? Or can we put our trust in the guy who made it to hand it off to someone he trusts to do good by it? Everyone is freaking out about a possibility, which isn't without cause since we've seen what can happen with other companies, but so far there is no need to pull out pitchforks.

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                                    You make it sound like the site has been destroyed and enshitefied. Do we have any proof of such so far? Or can we put our trust in the guy who made it to hand it off to someone he trusts to do good by it? Everyone is freaking out about a possibility, which isn't without cause since we've seen what can happen with other companies, but so far there is no need to pull out pitchforks.

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                                    Oh I agree. I’m just bitching that it was all done secretly.

                                    The fact that it’s secret implies to me the community won’t be happy. Idk.

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                                      Oh I agree. I’m just bitching that it was all done secretly.

                                      The fact that it’s secret implies to me the community won’t be happy. Idk.

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                                      Yeah, the doing it in secret can definitely be worrying and flame rumors, I agree. I'm being optimistic that the new owner is someone close to them and they're still working out details before announcing who they are

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                                      • I [email protected]

                                        Pretty much all platforms do this. It’s not a bad thing to want a big and established uncensored platform

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                                        Nobody should be obliged to host bigotry. That's not "censorship" in a way that matters.

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                                        • zerohora@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

                                          ? Same reason people use shit platforms? I can't barely watch Twitch with 3 ads in a row every 30min and they still are the biggest streaming platform even when is shitty to the users and streamers. It's a community based platform unless the community move to other place they still be big because people is there.

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                                          I was going to ask if twitch was still relevant but then realised I genuinely don't give a shit.

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