Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.
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It shows up as "Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)" outside of the US apparently. That seems like enough to make a fuss to me; bodies of international water have specific rules around name changes and the US can't unilaterally decide differently.
americans can call it whatever the fuck they want, that wont suddenly change its local or english name in any other countries
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That's a valid point, but why do you expect Google to take a principled stand on this? Take it up with your government.
In the world I want to live in...
Google would have taken a principled stand against such an attempt at a govt.
Instead, they bent the knee along with every other Tech Oligarch and, therefore, deserve the hit.
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I can see Google (and Apple) quietly paying this fine and changing it for Mexico (and any other jurisdiction that asks).
This is stupid and cowardly of them, but that aside, the implication is 100% “comply, or the US government will make life difficult for Google.” I can see how they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Step two of the plan you outlined was inverted, but the effect is the same: IIRC it only shows up that way for US users.
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Then why are you here trying to tell people that one asshole with an opinion is the government?
You can argue with strangers on the Internet as much as you like, but the fact is, the US president can and has changed the name of multiple geographic features, and arguing with me won't change that.
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It was changed by executive order, which the president has the authority to do. Google doesn't get to go "nuh-uh" and keep it the same.
Why didn't they change it only in the US and not elsewhere? Could you imagine the uproar if Google censored Tiananmen Square world wide because of the Chinese government?
PS: Yes it was modified for everyone outside the US too. I am not American but your "president" is now allowed to change what name I have to call something?
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Why didn't they change it only in the US and not elsewhere? Could you imagine the uproar if Google censored Tiananmen Square world wide because of the Chinese government?
PS: Yes it was modified for everyone outside the US too. I am not American but your "president" is now allowed to change what name I have to call something?
Because Google is a US company, and not in a position to tell the US government to take a walk, that's why.
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You can argue with strangers on the Internet as much as you like, but the fact is, the US president can and has changed the name of multiple geographic features, and arguing with me won't change that.
Oh, you've been caught being dumb and your story is changing.
First it was "the government", now it's "the president".
That's not how America works, lol. Naming things is a legislative responsibility. Trump can sign as many executive orders as he wants, but it isn't official without an act of congress and a chance for the judiciary to object.
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Step two of the plan you outlined was inverted, but the effect is the same: IIRC it only shows up that way for US users.
IIRC it only shows up that way for US users.
apparently that was either a lie or incomplete info
Where'd you first hear this?
Not judging, just curious about the information chain.
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I can see Google (and Apple) quietly paying this fine and changing it for Mexico (and any other jurisdiction that asks).
This is stupid and cowardly of them, but that aside, the implication is 100% “comply, or the US government will make life difficult for Google.” I can see how they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Nah, they’re willing collaborators.
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Oh, you've been caught being dumb and your story is changing.
First it was "the government", now it's "the president".
That's not how America works, lol. Naming things is a legislative responsibility. Trump can sign as many executive orders as he wants, but it isn't official without an act of congress and a chance for the judiciary to object.
The president is part of the government, they're not two separate entities.
And once again, there is nothing to be gained by arguing with me about this.
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PLEASE.DO IT
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americans can call it whatever the fuck they want, that wont suddenly change its local or english name in any other countries
Imagine being a tourist in the US, looking for an address you believe to be say, Martin Luther King Street. Can't find it anywhere, even on Google maps, then eventually you talk to someone and find out it's now called Elon Musk Avenue.
Not saying this is exactly the same, but if we're letting people change the names of places on commonly used global map software willy nilly, even if it's just region to region, we're gonna end up with problems. It's not like "freedom fries" back in the day that legitimately affected no one.
And I am suddenly seeing a parenthetical on the Gulf here outside the US, so there technically was a sudden change
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IIRC it only shows up that way for US users.
apparently that was either a lie or incomplete info
Where'd you first hear this?
Not judging, just curious about the information chain.
I can confirm that it shows up as both for me. I'm not in US or Mexico, and it shows as "Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)". The info I saw was that it shows as GoA in the US, GoM in Mexico, and both everywhere else. At least 2 of those are true, I'm guessing all 3 are
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Doesn't need to (but yeah yeah they're Google, I know...). They just should name it "Gulf of México" or whatever the translated name is to the user's device, and add an asterisk somewhere that shows a note to the effect of "a small fraction of Confederate remnants think it should be called 'Gulf of America'".
That is essentially what they've done by putting Gulf of America in brackets behind the original name.
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Oh, you've been caught being dumb and your story is changing.
First it was "the government", now it's "the president".
That's not how America works, lol. Naming things is a legislative responsibility. Trump can sign as many executive orders as he wants, but it isn't official without an act of congress and a chance for the judiciary to object.
potus is the "head of government". Would you prefer him to write your head of government?
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The president is part of the government, they're not two separate entities.
And once again, there is nothing to be gained by arguing with me about this.
You underestimate how much I enjoy arguing with people on the internet, lol.
So is this your admission that your earlier statement was false, or are you still pretending that "part of" is the same thing as "all"?
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potus is the "head of government". Would you prefer him to write your head of government?
That would be less inaccurate, lol.
And no. I'll be a pedantic asshole to anyone who pretends that Trump is anything other than one of President Musk's assistants.
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You underestimate how much I enjoy arguing with people on the internet, lol.
So is this your admission that your earlier statement was false, or are you still pretending that "part of" is the same thing as "all"?
He's the part of the government that has the power to unilaterally change the name of a location.
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He's the part of the government that has the power to unilaterally change the name of a location.
You're thinking of fascism. In America, the legislature names things, the executive signs or vetoes, and the judiciary adjudicates.
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Don’t forget apple
