Russia allegedly invests billions in disinformation campaign to sway German elections

[tomatolung@sopuli.xyz]

While I have little doubt they are spending many millions on it, I sort of doubt it's billions of euros. They link a telegram source, which talks about German Intelligence. Not impossible, but not an easily verifiable source.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

It just seems rather unlikely they are spending that much on disinformation when the have a real and present war in front of them with huge hardware/personnel loss, and have a waning treasury.

[daw@feddit.org]

This is hybrid war. AfD and other Russian friendly parties winning means less or less reliable aid to Ukraine

[disconnectikacio@lemmy.world]

Not just german elections. Also did to usa elections, here in orbanistan, slovakia, romania, etc...

[quill7513@slrpnk.net]

even Ukraine over the last 6 years, and georgia. and as i've watched things playeout after the last 20 years, i can say with confidence: no event is too small for russia to interfere. they desire total global dominance. they will do anything to achieve it. and the easiest way ho weaken everyone else is disinformation to make us all live in our own individual customized reality

[tja@sh.itjust.works]

And I would bet some of that money is coming from Elon

[xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world]

Wasn't lt it Elon Musk? How easy it is to blame others.....

[ofiuco@lemmy.cafe]

Mexican too, we even had RT ads in plain sight back when the Ukraine invasion was starting and the expresident constantly downplayed Putin's shit, we still are applying the outdated (most likely expired too) sputnik vaccine to the public.

[homesweethomemrl@lemmy.world]

I hear you, but what does it really matter? An (or many) orders of magnitude more than any other country would spend, or even consider.

They're doing it because it's working. They've got America on the ropes and didn't have to nuke anyone.

[homesweethomemrl@lemmy.world]

Does the hundreds of millions Elmo spent to elect trump count as russian meddling?

Survey says: Yes.

[fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee]

They want to spend 2 billion euros on disinformation so they don't have to spend 5 billion euros on their military.

For example, if they spent 2 billion getting Trump elected and he cuts off US support for Ukraine, that 5 billion would be an absolute bargain for them.

[satansmaggotycumfart@lemmy.world]

Laundering through Elon.

[albert180@discuss.tchncs.de]

Musk is Xi's (and also indirectly) Putin's Bitch

[atthecoast@feddit.nl]

I agree that the parties sceptical of the EU in its current form are found mostly on the right. But AfD is pretty closely aligned with the Republican agenda, so as part of a broader social trend of anti woke and conservative revival, blaming any potential wins on Russians, upfront, is a way to sidestep people’s grievances with the disastrous immigration and green policies of Europe.

[just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

For a bit of context, elon is supporting the far right AfD. And AfD is pro russian oil and anti nato. Nato which might have to intervene if a nato member is attacked by russia.

If there is any party russia is supporting, it has to be AfD, imo that would make the most sense.

[spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Worked great in the US, Nazi space karen definitely helped get trump elected

[raiderkev@lemmy.world]

No. Shit. They do in the US too. It worked twice now.

[theobroma@feddit.org]

Vladi, you want my vote?
Give me some monry.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

Personally all i heard about is politicians and parties affiliated with USA. I guess the billions russia spends are no match for whatever USA spend in propaganda and disinformation.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

For a bit of context, elon is supporting the far right AfD. And AfD is pro russian oil and anti nato.

At the end of the day you are either with russia or with usa. Politicians job is to lie to people and get votes but their actions once they are elected are always clear. You are either with usa or against it.

[a9cx34udp4zz0@lemmy.world]

At the end of the day you are either with russia or with usa. Politicians job is to lie to people and get votes but their actions once they are elected are always clear. You are either with usa or against it.

At this point I would say you're either for democracy or against it. The USA has little to do with it, especially with Cheeto Benito currently in charge and doing his best to build his own little fascist kingdom. If you're pro-democracy in Germany, you don't have to like or support the US one bit, but you do need to be against AfD.