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Macron: Russia has once again demonstrated it doesn’t actually share desire for peace

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    Now that they own USA ? They go for maximum profit.

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      Man, I know people dislike Macron, and I still think his handling of the Le Penn situation last year was a dramatic misplay, but I've always had a huge amount of respect for him. Maybe because I don't live in France (although I was almost accepted into a job there earlier this year!), but he seems like such a role model in terms of political leadership. He's been handling the Trump/Putin situation much better than most other world leaders, in my opinion

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      Man he is only making business. The current goal now is the rearming Europe as huge and as fast is possible. Russia making peace can slowdown that. I don't say that he is wrong, but he is just a businessman (France is i think in the world top 3 of weapons selling). Also he fucked Frances democracy, and he kept the colonialism attitude of France in other continents.

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        Well, in this thread, as it's been already pointed out, you've engaged in whataboutism to change the subject from russia to France. It's only a small step above a kid's "NO YOU!" level of argumentation.

        Is France's imperialistic history deplorable? Yes. But by the end of the year they will have pulled out from all but 2 countries with which they had defense agreements, as opposed to russia which is increasing presence in the same countries, in addition to the countries in which it already had a presence. So it's actually russia that has potentially more troops in Africa, but I can't find actual numbers to confirm since it's in russia's best interest not to declare those.

        So yeah, how can you compare a country that leaves when it's uninvited to russia which is actively shelling a sovereign nation on top of doing the same shit in Africa as all the other imperialists?

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          Afrikans. You don't even want to name exact countries where russia and France clash politically and economically.

          Because it would open up discussion of russia being as imperialistic NOW as France was half a decade ago.

          And oh, they are arming the opposition. What USA has been doing in countries they want resources denied or exploited.

          You know. Imperialistic shit.

          Fucking Afrikans. Mr socialist.

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            Russia has demonstrated it doesn't actually desire peace so many times by now that it's a bit pointless to mention it, really.

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            Hence “once again” in the title

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              It is really time for Europe to come together and put and end to Russia and liberate the people wgo they can enjoy the prosperity that the rest of Europe offers. Will it be WW3? Yes. With the condition of the Russian military it will not be for long.

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                but I’ve always had a huge amount of respect for him.

                You have really weird role models:

                https://tuta.com/blog/france-surveillance-nacrotrafic-law

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_security_law

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoYFjryuFjs

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                Respect ≠ "role model"

                Try again.

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                  What the French president thinks about... Go ahead honey, you can do it. Finish the sentence.

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                    I'm glad you asked!

                    Defending China saying that allegations of Genocide are just lies

                    Defending Russia's ludacris negotiation demands

                    Defending North Korea

                    Stalin wasn't that bad of a guy

                    Standard ableism about Soviet Russia

                    I could keep going all day. You don't strike me as a bad type but I cannot allow utter rubbish to be thrown around like that.

                    The world is not as simple as US/West bad Russia/China good or vice versa. There is a significant amount of nuance that you need to find here.

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                      It is really time for Europe to come together and put and end to Russia and liberate the people wgo they can enjoy the prosperity that the rest of Europe offers. Will it be WW3? Yes. With the condition of the Russian military it will not be for long.

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                      Condition of Europe is not really good.

                      The UK practically sent their entire stockpile of SPGs to Ukraine thus have gutted their military to nil and Poland thrown half of their stockpile of SPGs to Ukraine for example. Russia is producing more artillery shells than the entirety of Europe combined according to pro-Ukraine sources. Almost every European country has complained about massive shortages of ammunition due to it all being given to Ukraine. France stated they could only fight Russia for a few weeks before running out of ammo. Other European countries have stated similar things.

                      Europe can’t even produce their own ballistic missiles which have been a game changer in Ukraine as shown by the effectiveness of ATACMS and Iskander-M. And Russia has been massively out producing Europe in terms of air-launched cruise missiles so don’t bring up Storm Shadow (Kh-101 is longer range than Storm Shadow anyways) or other similar weapon systems.

                      Russia produced more T-90Ms (a very good tank mind you) last year than the amount of tanks the entire German military has. Production was 20-30 per month last year but this has likely since doubled. Losses for T-90Ms have been low as per Oryx with production massively outpacing losses (one to two months of production last year was enough to replace yearly T-90M losses).

                      Even T-72B3 has a superior fire control system than the forty year old system used on the Leopard 2A6.

                      Most of Russian Armed Forces aren’t even in Ukraine, majority of forces in Ukraine are from irregular volunteer formations recruited from regions across Russia.

                      Hence why casualties amongst Russian professionals are low:

                      (tad old numbers from like weeks ago)

                      Motorized Rifles: 6,457

                      VDV: 3,257

                      Naval Infantry: 1,305

                      Tank Crew: 1,806

                      Artillery: 851

                      Special Forces: 736

                      Engineering: 291

                      Navy: 291

                      VVS: 265

                      Other: 957

                      Total: 16,216

                      Source: MediaZona

                      For comparison:

                      US losses from 2003-2005 mainly against insurgents: 5175

                      Source: Defense Casualty Analysis System

                      Instead of Europe easily conquering Russia, a Russian victory would be a more likely outcome

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