I refuse to buy a handheld that is not SteamOS.
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I refuse to buy a handheld that is not SteamOS. Like Nintendo, they can basically just brick your device, and online functionality requires a monthly subscription.
Also, we know Microsoft will eventually do something to mess this all up.
With SteamOS, we can fork and change it and have access to our entire Steam libraries. I have had Steam my whole life and only played PC. Why would I even bother with anything else?
Also, we know Microsoft will eventually do something to mess this all up.
Even if they change absolutely nothing, Windows on a handheld is an infuriating experience, which is saying a lot, because the desktop version isn't very good either.
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I refuse to buy a handheld that is not SteamOS. Like Nintendo, they can basically just brick your device, and online functionality requires a monthly subscription.
Also, we know Microsoft will eventually do something to mess this all up.
With SteamOS, we can fork and change it and have access to our entire Steam libraries. I have had Steam my whole life and only played PC. Why would I even bother with anything else?
Like Nintendo, they can basically just brick your device
What? No they can't, stop spreading bullshit. If that was the case it would be much, much harder to install a different OS. I can tell you from experience though that it's no harder than any other x86 PC.
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Like Nintendo, they can basically just brick your device
What? No they can't, stop spreading bullshit. If that was the case it would be much, much harder to install a different OS. I can tell you from experience though that it's no harder than any other x86 PC.
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They're talking about handheld PCs. They are nothing more than oddly shaped laptops, they can't be remotely bricked.
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Yes, I am aware of Nintendo's hubris. However, that Does Not prove that Microsoft is capable of doing the same. In fact, I think if they could it would be a Pretty Fluffing Big Deal that would be talked about a lot more. However your comment is the first I've ever seen mention of the possibility of Microsoft doing it, so I'd really love to see a source.
It does remain to be seen whether the ROG Xbox Ally devices will have a locked down bootloader, but I still very much doubt it.
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Yes, I am aware of Nintendo's hubris. However, that Does Not prove that Microsoft is capable of doing the same. In fact, I think if they could it would be a Pretty Fluffing Big Deal that would be talked about a lot more. However your comment is the first I've ever seen mention of the possibility of Microsoft doing it, so I'd really love to see a source.
It does remain to be seen whether the ROG Xbox Ally devices will have a locked down bootloader, but I still very much doubt it.
It's difficult to prove anything like that. From independent research we know that Intel, and likely AMD too with their counterpart, can remotely control your PC via IME. But they've never done that yet or have done so very secretly, because then a lot more people would know and that would be problematic.
Personally I think it's reasonable to suspect that Microsoft has full capability to severely cripple your system at any given time. Maybe not 'brick' as that may be impossible without proprietary hardware inside the machine. However, even a simple Windows installation can mess up your UEFI. Given that, do you think that all those millions of fully secret lines of code cannot render you unable to use your PC, even if just temporarily?
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It's difficult to prove anything like that. From independent research we know that Intel, and likely AMD too with their counterpart, can remotely control your PC via IME. But they've never done that yet or have done so very secretly, because then a lot more people would know and that would be problematic.
Personally I think it's reasonable to suspect that Microsoft has full capability to severely cripple your system at any given time. Maybe not 'brick' as that may be impossible without proprietary hardware inside the machine. However, even a simple Windows installation can mess up your UEFI. Given that, do you think that all those millions of fully secret lines of code cannot render you unable to use your PC, even if just temporarily?
...AMD too with their counterpart...
AMD's counterpart PSP doesn't seem capable of what you're suggesting. As for Intel, well, they don't have the same comfortable lead anymore so I strongly doubt they're going to try anything like that, making it a moot point.
Given that, do you think that all those millions of fully secret lines of code cannot render you unable to use your PC, even if just temporarily?
I never said that, so I don't know what you're arguing against. Of course they can remotely disable an install of Windows. But being able to brick a device, rendering it a mere paperweight forevermore? That is what I am saying is not possible, and I'm fairly sure I'm right about that.
As for the UEFI shenanigans, well that's a feature of UEFI, not a bug. However there is a level of trust you're supposed to be able to have in your OS not to mess with it, and is just a sign of Microsoft's arrogance that they do.
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I refuse to buy a handheld that is not SteamOS. Like Nintendo, they can basically just brick your device, and online functionality requires a monthly subscription.
Also, we know Microsoft will eventually do something to mess this all up.
With SteamOS, we can fork and change it and have access to our entire Steam libraries. I have had Steam my whole life and only played PC. Why would I even bother with anything else?
Who told you windows devices could be remotely bricked by Microsoft??
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Like Nintendo, they can basically just brick your device
What? No they can't, stop spreading bullshit. If that was the case it would be much, much harder to install a different OS. I can tell you from experience though that it's no harder than any other x86 PC.
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That shows that Nintendo can do it, but your comment is suggesting Microsoft is able too?
