Range anxiety is overblown. Electric vehicle owners only use 13 percent of their battery capacity a day, on average.
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Funny thing. Only time an ICE has failed me on the road is either the brake caliper locked up or the battery died....
wrote last edited by [email protected]Well, I had a muffler partially fall off. Fuel filter clogged (twice) intake manifold cracked and caused a misfire. O2 sensor went haywire and put the car in a limp mode... I've never run out of gas, but I've heard that isn't uncommon for other people. Ignition coils went bad... Consider yourself very lucky.
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no, so I have this meteor hit insurance for
you... it only costs 120% of your incomeI’ve never had an accident so I guess I don’t need car insurance or seatbelts.
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Well, I had a muffler partially fall off. Fuel filter clogged (twice) intake manifold cracked and caused a misfire. O2 sensor went haywire and put the car in a limp mode... I've never run out of gas, but I've heard that isn't uncommon for other people. Ignition coils went bad... Consider yourself very lucky.
Sounds like you just dont do maintenence on your cars lol.
Speaking of ignition coil, i did have the ECU fail and stopped sending siginals to a coil... but can really include a computer failure when talking about ICE reliability vs EV?.
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And here I am with the strong belief that 1000Km is the range at which I’d be happy with. EVs degrade over time, and one must undercharge them to 80% on a daily basis. 1000Km also solves the road trip issue, being able to drive until you’re tired and then charge to rest. Then also, EVs would be better than gas cars and be a better deal overall.
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Sounds like you just dont do maintenence on your cars lol.
Speaking of ignition coil, i did have the ECU fail and stopped sending siginals to a coil... but can really include a computer failure when talking about ICE reliability vs EV?.
No, I maintained my cars. What's the maintenance schedule on an intake manifold?
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I've driven a EV as a daily for six years now and while daily range M-F anxiety is mostly not an issue but that one day a month when your spouse tells you there's a last minute change in plans and you're running at half charge because you forgot to plug in at night and hitting a charger that's miles out of the way isn't going to work is a thing.
You're also going to be doing a lot of planning for trips to another city, eating into the day of fun for charging which can be more stressful.
Work trips where you can't get someone to drive you to the airport in your car is always fun.
Don't get me started on road trips, we don't take the electric vehicle because range anxiety is very much a thing when you don't know if a cold front is coming up your ass and you're mid charging stations and debating if you turn on the heat or not (spoilers there was no heat). Add to that, the battery degradation and charging stations being fewer and farther between than gas, that range anxiety will hit you on long trips and not to mention the hours it adds to your trip.
I'm still a proponent of electric cars but range and time are issues still.
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And here I am with the strong belief that 1000Km is the range at which I’d be happy with. EVs degrade over time, and one must undercharge them to 80% on a daily basis. 1000Km also solves the road trip issue, being able to drive until you’re tired and then charge to rest. Then also, EVs would be better than gas cars and be a better deal overall.
And hence, range anxiety is overblown.
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I’ve never had an accident so I guess I don’t need car insurance or seatbelts.
wrote last edited by [email protected]but you just said the infrequency of an event does not determine value or importance???
I guess you just realized how silly your previous comment was... good for you
be sure to use the seatbelt next time you plan to have an accident
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No, I maintained my cars. What's the maintenance schedule on an intake manifold?
Low/old oil causes higher friction and higher temperatures. And low coolant reduces how well the system keeps the engine cool.
If you have one crack, thats bad luck in manufacturing defect... having two... either your really unlucky, or doing something wrong.
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Low/old oil causes higher friction and higher temperatures. And low coolant reduces how well the system keeps the engine cool.
If you have one crack, thats bad luck in manufacturing defect... having two... either your really unlucky, or doing something wrong.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Ford made it out of resin and it was an issue. Point being, ICE cars are mechanically more complex, and more likely to strand you due to failures that are beyond your control.
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I have an ice maker at home. Most days I use maybe 5 ice cubes total to make a cold drink.
However, if my ice maker could only hold 5 ice cubes max at a time, I would consider it a shitty ice maker and would be looking for a new one.
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Right, but you never want to be dependent on a stop.
We have an older 2017 leaf. You can highway about an hour and a half/two hours tops. If you get to that charge station and they only have 1chademo plug and it's out of order you're stuck using the slower "charge the car in 4-5 hours" plug.
For long trips we top up once we get to 40 percent or so, that way we can potentially skip a stop if need be.
I have a 2019 Tesla, which I bought specifically due to their charging network. That network is now open to other manufacturers, and most have signed deals with Tesla for integration. I've never had an issue with charging, and the longest I've ever had to wait for a charging spot was 10 minutes, and that was when half of the chargers at that stop were offline for some unknown reason.
While I don't particularly want to support any of Elon's companies at this time, Tesla did do pretty much everything right regarding charging infrastructure, and like you said, the alternatives are very iffy.
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That's interesting. I hadn't considered the efficiency aspect. L2 would be a pain to install where I live, I'm thinking. It's a bungalow and the breaker box is about as far from the driveway in the basement as is humanly possible. So lots of wiring and drilling to bring the power out to where it's needed seems likely.
From what others are saying, I probably do not need L2 for my modest driving needs, but the efficiency aspect could imply it would eventually pay itself back in energy savings. But if I have essentially what amounts to the worst case scenario in terms of upfront installation cost, that could take a long time…
Off the top of my head, I think L1 is like 75% efficient and L2 is closer to 95%, so it's a pretty significant efficiency drop. For me though, it's a similarly difficult install, and I've just got so many other other projects on the go that I've just never made it a priority. Maybe one day if I ever get solar installed...
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Well, yeah, but going 100.1% over capacity can be very inconvenient, particularly if you are far from service. So "on average" doesn't consider that some numbers are worse than others.
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Yeah.
I like going camping sometimes.
Or on longer road trips.
Range is an actual issue. The fact that I'm in the city MOST of the time I drive doesn't mean I'm in the city ALL the time I drive. I don't need some article telling me range anxiety is overblown when it isn't on those days.
For the "sometimes" long distance trips, you can always hire a long-range car for the trip.
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Oh my god buy a Prius
This problem was solved handily by hybrids before most porn stars were even born
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Ford made it out of resin and it was an issue. Point being, ICE cars are mechanically more complex, and more likely to strand you due to failures that are beyond your control.
Absolutely, but that being said breaking down on the side of the road is pretty damn rare for properly maintained ice engines. Your personal experience not withstanding. I've been driving for 35 years and I drove way more than the average person over that time.
I've had 2 break downs during that time that an average person would have needed a tow truck for. One on an unmaintained service van, that blew a water hose. The other was a bad starter on a 99' neon which was a manual so I push started it for 3 months
In fact, for anyone that takes a reasonable number of long trips. An ice engine, is going to crush a EV in time efficiency of travel time even counting rare breakdowns.
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For the "sometimes" long distance trips, you can always hire a long-range car for the trip.
In theory. In theory some can rent a car with property XYZ. And for "sometimes but often enough" long trips those rental charges adds up fast.
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but you just said the infrequency of an event does not determine value or importance???
I guess you just realized how silly your previous comment was... good for you
be sure to use the seatbelt next time you plan to have an accident
This is hilarious. Re-read my comment and what you just wrote. You don't understand what the sentence "the infrequency of an event does not determine value or importance" means. To use smaller words, it means that just because something happens infrequently, doesn't mean we shouldn't care about or plan for it. Accidents happen infrequently, but they're a big deal when they happen. An event can still be important even when it happens infrequently. You argued, above, that because something happens infrequently it's not important.
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I have an ice maker at home. Most days I use maybe 5 ice cubes total to make a cold drink.
However, if my ice maker could only hold 5 ice cubes max at a time, I would consider it a shitty ice maker and would be looking for a new one.
Article says 13% of capacity is normal. That's like your ice tray holds 35 but sometimes you have a party and have to buy cubes at the store.
Everyone shouts at you for not having ice on tap that costs them five times as much to make as your ice tray and is still more expensive than store ice, all because sometimes you have go to the shop.
