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  • sexy_peach@feddit.orgS [email protected]

    Europe has gangs and guns and whatnot. But people have more to lose I think. Something like that. Better education maybe?

    Could be way better here as well

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    Every country have criminals and guns. The difference is how available they are to the general public. And what type of guns.

    Anyone in the US that isn't a convicted felon can buy a handgun as soon as they turn 21. And there are very few laws on how you're required to store them.

    Compared to Europe where it's incredibly rare for an average citizen to have access to a handgun.

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      Why is this a picture of grass?

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        Have you heard of "induced demand" courtesy of the FuckCars community?

        Well, the same applies to violence.

        If you have police on campus people subconsciously expect violence. It's a self-fullfilling prophecy. The more security theatre you add, the more actual security you'll need.

        Normalizing shootings by giving them such media attention also doesn't help, if the prospective shooter craves it. Neither does the fact that it occupies a large part of the US public consciousness.

        Some kids do it because others have already, and because school shootings are such a hot media topic.

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          Shots fired

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          • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zoneH [email protected]

            That's an exarregation, right?

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            I don't think so. It is exactly like that in France.

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              I’m sorry you have to go through that bro.

              What I learnt about bullies is once you smack them in the face most of them will think twice before bullying you again.

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              Bullying is often in the form of low-level violence combined with verbal and other forms of harassment committed repeatedly by folks who enjoy it.

              There is little hope of beating it at the same level of intensity and for reasons of culture and not prosecuting thousands of kids adults avoid dealing with low intensity harm between kids even when over time it is intolerable.
              Beating up the bully requires one to be capable of such when the bully may be larger and physically imposing and part of a group then not getting treated as the guilty party afterward for being the one who actually caused real harm as if the harm of years of harassment aren't real.

              Its great your solution worked for you but for lots it would mean bully and friends get to beat you without consequence and you get in trouble reinforcing the game.

              Its quite frankly on average a bs solution. The actual one is to pay attention to who is a pos and kick the 1% worst pos to shit schools so 99% can learn in peace.

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              • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zoneH [email protected]

                That's an exarregation, right?

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                Yeah, a UK friend of mine mentioned that it is meant to prevent kids from playing hooky (ditch school). Meanwhile in Canada, we're free range children.

                It does probably depend on the school location.

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                  Why would you move to the Netherlands if you are MAGA? Isn't your country so much greater again now? You ellected your king and then you left?

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                  laughs in Dutch politics

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                    Bullying is often in the form of low-level violence combined with verbal and other forms of harassment committed repeatedly by folks who enjoy it.

                    There is little hope of beating it at the same level of intensity and for reasons of culture and not prosecuting thousands of kids adults avoid dealing with low intensity harm between kids even when over time it is intolerable.
                    Beating up the bully requires one to be capable of such when the bully may be larger and physically imposing and part of a group then not getting treated as the guilty party afterward for being the one who actually caused real harm as if the harm of years of harassment aren't real.

                    Its great your solution worked for you but for lots it would mean bully and friends get to beat you without consequence and you get in trouble reinforcing the game.

                    Its quite frankly on average a bs solution. The actual one is to pay attention to who is a pos and kick the 1% worst pos to shit schools so 99% can learn in peace.

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                    Perhaps I should have highlighted that it’s not a viable option for everybody.

                    I would say that your solution is also pretty shitty. As bad as bullies are many of them are doing because either they’re getting bullied / hit at home and so they act out in this way or have other issues.

                    I don’t think sticking them all together is the solution, we should be trying to understand why someone is doing that and see if we can make positive changes. When I say we I mean the education system.

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                      As a gun owner in USA, I fucking hate gun culture.

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                      honest question: then why do you own one?
                      I get self defense, of course, but doesn't the fact of owning a firearm make you part of gun culture?
                      or am I missing something?

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                        That's why I never tell anyone outside of my immediate family that I own a firearm. Because some weird fucking people in America exist. And they are gun nuts.

                        No bro, I don't want to talk about your 300 blackout how you wish someone would bust into your house so you can shoot them.

                        I keep my shit in my safe, that's it. It's not a personality.

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                        how do you use it in a home invasion in the middle of the night if it's locked up and unloaded?

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                          Ah but is that not something they opt to do because they feel safe? In comparison, American gun nuts would never do that, they don’t feel safe without their guns.

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                          all 37 of them

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                            metal detectors and xray scanning of backpacks made me feel like I was going to prison lol

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                            I think the most security I ever had was the gates being locked between opening and closing times. This was during primary school. Britain sucks but at least it's not America.

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                              The truth hurts.

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                              • robocall@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                Why is this a picture of grass?

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                                That's where the fence goes

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                                • nexguy@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                  I mean if you are there putting the last bricks in and you are standing on the north side you really don't have much of a choice.

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                                  North of the Wall!!! I want to be a wildling

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                                    "Expat" is my favourite dog whistle. Because "migrant" is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.

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                                    • rmdebarc_5@piefed.zipR [email protected]

                                      I think the US military only attacks school when there students aren’t mainly white

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                                      Or run by a democratically-elected leftist government.

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                                        This was a troll account. It was a Dutch guy pretending to be MAGA to point out how arrogant Europeans are. He succeed thoroughly

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                                          So that's part of the same point. They COULD have access to guns and could shoot each other, but nobody wants to. Thus guns are only a problem when there’s other underlying issues.

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                                          Nope, Switzerland had one of the highest rates of gun suicides before measures were taken.

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