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Should I use firefox sync in librewolf, Is it private enough?

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  • C [email protected]

    Can I self host it from termux for localhost only??
    Without need of domain and other resources??

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    Probably... I mean, I'd at least start it in a systemd service, but sure, you don't need a domain.

    But of course your mobile won't be able to access that domain outside your network

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    • C [email protected]

      I use filen actively

      But, how to use it as an Alternative to firefox sync??

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      Firefox, same as any other Browser, has a local folder with all the settings, bookmarks and passwords, this is the folder which you have to sync with your other devices. Firefox sync don't do other thing, but with Mozilla and not with Filen.

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        That’s like not using Google but using drive

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        It's nothing at all like using Drive, because the payload is encrypted.

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        • L [email protected]

          You say you've already read Librewolf's FAQ, so I can skip over what they've provided in their response.

          The only possible downside I could see would be that your encrypted data is stored on Mozilla servers. Which isn't a very major downside--it's properly end-to-end-encrypted. This is mentioned both by Mozilla themselves, as well as in the Librewolf docs. This is the only downside I can see right now, but for the paranoid, it might be worth looking toward the future; who knows, maybe some day, Firefox will randomly decide to disable E2EE for Firefox sync. That could be a potential downside down the road. But I find that to be pretty unrealistic... I honestly can't see a lot of ways for Mozilla to screw this up.

          If the prospect of relying on Mozilla servers still makes you uncomfortable, then you can self-host a sync server, but it's not exactly a quick setup. They do provide a Docker method of installation, at least. The sync server code is found here, along with installation instructions for self-hosting and how to connect it to Firefox/Librewolf/other derivatives: https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs

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          I've set up the sync server but it is definitely a pain in the ass.

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          • zerush@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

            Firefox, same as any other Browser, has a local folder with all the settings, bookmarks and passwords, this is the folder which you have to sync with your other devices. Firefox sync don't do other thing, but with Mozilla and not with Filen.

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            But I cannot access this folder on Android?
            Otherwise I had used Syncthing.

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            • zerush@lemmy.mlZ [email protected]

              The alternative to Mozilla sync is eg. Filen, an German Opensource encrypted, no knowledge cloud service. 10GB for free.

              https://github.com/FilenCloudDienste

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              Wont work if its PC Smartphone combo

              A propos of nothing:
              https://lemmy.ml/post/27254722

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              • S [email protected]

                No idea - this is my firefox sync NixOS config, in its entirety:

                  age.secrets.ffsync.rekeyFile = secrets.ffsync;
                  services.firefox-syncserver = {
                    enable = true;
                    secrets = config.age.secrets.ffsync.path;
                    settings.hostname = "localhost";
                
                    singleNode = {
                      enable = true;
                      hostname = "0.0.0.0";
                      capacity = 2;
                    };
                  };
                
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                I wonder if it still needs account management on Mozilla server or on your own. May I?

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                  I wonder if it still needs account management on Mozilla server or on your own. May I?

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                  Yeaaaaaaahh the auth thing is really, really complicated to selfhost. There's a docker project out there that apparently makes it possible, but.... No idea. FOr the time being I still use FF's auth - that's still an improvement though: Mozilla knows that I am logging in / from what kind of device, but not the content or amount of what I sync.

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                  • C [email protected]

                    Following video of thelinuxexperiment and all the news against mozilla.
                    I finally switched to librewolf completely.
                    I exported and imported all kind of data too.

                    But I want to use ffsync only to keep my mobile (android) in sync with my pc (want to sync history also so flocuss etc will not work)
                    So I want to enable ffsync in librewolf

                    I have seen faq but as mozilla recently introduced their terms of usage (and all the hate against it)
                    Is it still private enough to use ffsync? what can be downsides?

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                    I just set up my own sync server. It is dead simple with docker compose and pretty well described on their git page.

                    Getting my own auth server up and running was a bit more difficult, but it is absolutely doable. There a a few ppl who have made scripts to ease the task. You can find them on github.

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                    • C [email protected]

                      But I cannot access this folder on Android?
                      Otherwise I had used Syncthing.

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                      In this case the only alternative is to use Vivaldi instead of FF forks, it has an own EE2E no knowledge sync in all devices.

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