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    The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.

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      The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.

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      Nor should they.

      At this point, the US should get the Russia and North Korea treatment, complete segregation from the civilized world.

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        Nor should they.

        At this point, the US should get the Russia and North Korea treatment, complete segregation from the civilized world.

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        Nah, Europe should grow closer and stronger, but we should keep normal relations with the US for now in case Trump steps down in four years. Hurting our own economy to prove a point would be stupid

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          The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.

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          Most Americans feel the same way about their own country

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            The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.

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            I miss G.W., I thought he would be the worst person ever in power.

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              Nah, Europe should grow closer and stronger, but we should keep normal relations with the US for now in case Trump steps down in four years. Hurting our own economy to prove a point would be stupid

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              No matter who will gain power in the US, that country's political system as it is cannot be trusted anymore. It brought that destructive madman to power not only once, but twice. There are zero safeguards against this happening again and again and again.

              Also it's not very likely for Trump nor his vile party to allow another regime change. They attempted a coup already when Trump lost the election last time. Even though Trump himself is as dumb as a bucket of shit, in the Republican Party, there are people who are smart enough to have learned lessons from the failed coup. The kind of lessons they used to draw up "Project 2025". Even if Trump drops dead before his nominal term is over, his equally vile vice president will take over, and I doubt he has any greater desire than Trump himself to ever relinquish power. A not insignificant part of the US population supports the ideology of those vile people. And a phenomenon very well known in Germany from its infamous fascist past, a large, silent majority just tagging along for fear of retribution, is already manifesting itself in the US. As a last farewell, we therefore should export the nice German word "Mitläufer" to the USA.

              If Trump or Musk do something against Germany

              They already have. Musk's propaganda platform (and other US "social media" platforms) is supporting enemies of the German state (the AfD), and Both Musk and Trump's second in command been endorsing them before the election.

              Seizing Musk's Tesla factory is a good idea, but I wouldn't give it to VW, they might learn even more lessons on how to reduce their products' quality while simultaneously inflating their prices.

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                Nor should they.

                At this point, the US should get the Russia and North Korea treatment, complete segregation from the civilized world.

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                But that would interrupt our coffee supply and--
                ...
                Actually, never mind. Do it.

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                  The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.

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                  We should have started this process right after 9/11 honestly. If not sooner.

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                    The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.

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                    The US government has been conquered by Russia without a single shot fired.

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                      The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.

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                      No surprise really. This is from 2019
                      https://www.reuters.com/article/world/nicht-gut-nearly-85-percent-of-germans-see-us-german-ties-as-negative-idUSKCN1PX1C6/

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                        I miss G.W., I thought he would be the worst person ever in power.

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                        Remember the innocent days when we thought W was incredibly dumb?

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                          Remember the innocent days when we thought W was incredibly dumb?

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                          He was dumb. And a war criminal. The current mess doesn't change that.

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                            He was dumb. And a war criminal. The current mess doesn't change that.

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                            Yes, but he can't be called "incredibly dumb" anymore, because the level of stupidity that is possible, and therefore credible, has been raised by quite a margin with Trump's appearance.

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                              He was dumb. And a war criminal. The current mess doesn't change that.

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                              No but it does diffuse it a bit.

                              It's like holding the land speed record in 1911.

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                                No surprise really. This is from 2019
                                https://www.reuters.com/article/world/nicht-gut-nearly-85-percent-of-germans-see-us-german-ties-as-negative-idUSKCN1PX1C6/

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                                Otoh, things have rather dramatically turned around on at least two fronts:

                                [...] Donald Trump, who has criticized Germany repeatedly for its [...] participation in the Russian-led Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

                                [...] only 1.9 percent worried about Russia[n influence] [...]

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                                  Yes, but he can't be called "incredibly dumb" anymore, because the level of stupidity that is possible, and therefore credible, has been raised by quite a margin with Trump's appearance.

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                                  I think Trump is smarter than Bush.

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                                    The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.

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                                    Would you Germans like a geologist from the US? I would love to immigrate.

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                                      I think Trump is smarter than Bush.

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                                      Pretty sure that Bush never would have boasted about his ability to memorize "Person, woman, man, camera, TV" or called himself a "stable genius". The guy is Dunning-Krugering along and listening to vile gut feelings.

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                                        Would you Germans like a geologist from the US? I would love to immigrate.

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                                        Or a buyer for medical devices? I even work for a German company. Maybe I can transfer.

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                                          Pretty sure that Bush never would have boasted about his ability to memorize "Person, woman, man, camera, TV" or called himself a "stable genius". The guy is Dunning-Krugering along and listening to vile gut feelings.

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                                          Bush wasn't as much of a narcissist

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