Germans no longer see US as trustworthy partner.
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The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.
Well they are not, we should be sending their troops amd ambassadors home.
As for Germany they are undermining the fight for Ukrainian borders because of their love of Russian oil ad gas. If they want the taps back on, they are the untrustworthy partner to Ukraine.
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Well they are not, we should be sending their troops amd ambassadors home.
As for Germany they are undermining the fight for Ukrainian borders because of their love of Russian oil ad gas. If they want the taps back on, they are the untrustworthy partner to Ukraine.
As for Germany they are undermining the fight for Ukrainian borders because of their love of Russian oil ad gas.
WTF? Are you making that shit up or are you that misinformed?
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The actual news is that DW parrots the German governments opinion. Which isn't really news either. I dare say that the population in Germany has been "somewhat ambivalent" about the benevolence of US foreign politics for quite a while.
Germany was very positive and trusting of Obama and the US during that time and we started regaining some trust under Biden, but it definitely never has been the same after Trump first took office
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Nah, Europe should grow closer and stronger, but we should keep normal relations with the US for now in case Trump steps down in four years. Hurting our own economy to prove a point would be stupid
It is not proving a point, it is a simple matter of risk management. There will eventually be "normal" relationships, like the ones we have with Angola or the Dominican republic. The one we had been having was not "normal" it was based on an excess of trust, and there is not any more left.
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Just remember, a lot of people here do not agree with this administration…. On another note, If I held dual citizenship for Germany because she was born on a us base there, do I automatically get the opportunity to move to Germany? I know I could look it up, but I’m looking for first hand experiences.
Children born in Germany to non-citizens can get German citizenship under certain conditions only since January 2000. I'd assume your mother is older than 25, which means she wouldn't have the right to German citizenship just because she was born in Germany and therefore neither would you. Do you know for a fact that your mother has dual citizenship?
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The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.
It's so hard for two genocidal fascists to maintain a healthy relationship.
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Just remember, a lot of people here do not agree with this administration…. On another note, If I held dual citizenship for Germany because she was born on a us base there, do I automatically get the opportunity to move to Germany? I know I could look it up, but I’m looking for first hand experiences.
How did she get it? you dont automatically get German citizenship by being born in Germany (as opposed to being born in the USA)
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One good thing that might come out of all of this, is that USA people might stop being so annoying about how great and perfect their country supposedly is whenever you talk to them. Every time i hear someone chanting "USA, USA" i fell like whacking them with a bat.
It's a death cult.
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The US government has been conquered by Russia without a single shot fired.
Strange. USA looks the same out my window.
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I miss G.W., I thought he would be the worst person ever in power.
Every president is the worst person in power during their time.
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The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.
Merkel, in the other hand, kneecapped Germany and Europe at her refusal to see the Russian threat and to acknowledge US' inherent instability (as anything in the US can change at a whim of a sitting president)
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As for Germany they are undermining the fight for Ukrainian borders because of their love of Russian oil ad gas.
WTF? Are you making that shit up or are you that misinformed?
There have been growing reports of industrial pressure to have the fuel form part of an agreement to encourage Russia which is capitulation.
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There have been growing reports of industrial pressure to have the fuel form part of an agreement to encourage Russia which is capitulation.
You can always find someone pressuring for anything. I'm not a huge fan of the incoming government coalition but there's no doubt of their support for Ukraine. The only thing called into question is the extent of monetary support for Ukrainian refugees. They currently have a similar status as EU citizens, there are talks to reduce that status to the same level as other refugees. We'll see what the results of the negotiations will be.
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Children born in Germany to non-citizens can get German citizenship under certain conditions only since January 2000. I'd assume your mother is older than 25, which means she wouldn't have the right to German citizenship just because she was born in Germany and therefore neither would you. Do you know for a fact that your mother has dual citizenship?
Yeah, she does because her mother is/was German
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How did she get it? you dont automatically get German citizenship by being born in Germany (as opposed to being born in the USA)
Her mother was a German citizen. Grandpa was single when he was in Germany during the war.
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The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.
I’ll bet it’s due to the FUCKING NAZIS that took over the government
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No matter who will gain power in the US, that country's political system as it is cannot be trusted anymore. It brought that destructive madman to power not only once, but twice. There are zero safeguards against this happening again and again and again.
Also it's not very likely for Trump nor his vile party to allow another regime change. They attempted a coup already when Trump lost the election last time. Even though Trump himself is as dumb as a bucket of shit, in the Republican Party, there are people who are smart enough to have learned lessons from the failed coup. The kind of lessons they used to draw up "Project 2025". Even if Trump drops dead before his nominal term is over, his equally vile vice president will take over, and I doubt he has any greater desire than Trump himself to ever relinquish power. A not insignificant part of the US population supports the ideology of those vile people. And a phenomenon very well known in Germany from its infamous fascist past, a large, silent majority just tagging along for fear of retribution, is already manifesting itself in the US. As a last farewell, we therefore should export the nice German word "Mitläufer" to the USA.
If Trump or Musk do something against Germany
They already have. Musk's propaganda platform (and other US "social media" platforms) is supporting enemies of the German state (the AfD), and Both Musk and Trump's second in command been endorsing them before the election.
Seizing Musk's Tesla factory is a good idea, but I wouldn't give it to VW, they might learn even more lessons on how to reduce their products' quality while simultaneously inflating their prices.
that country’s political system as it is cannot be trusted anymore. It brought that destructive madman to power not only once, but twice. There are zero safeguards against this happening again and again and again.
Worse, there'll be insufficient interest to change the system to put those safeguards in place even if Democrats regain power, to say nothing of the Constitutional Amendments likely necessary to effectively do so and the lack of State legislatures supporting such even if Congress manages 51% of a vote for things other than Constitutional Amendments. That might be enough for an impeachment, but just barely 51% isn't very reassuring for the rest of the world.
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Germany was very positive and trusting of Obama and the US during that time and we started regaining some trust under Biden, but it definitely never has been the same after Trump first took office
The drone murders didn't find much sympathy here but thanks to most of our media's, uh... "transatlantic engagement" the topic didn't get too much publicity.
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The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.
Rammstein released “Amerika” in 2004. That was during the 1st Bush Jr administration but the complaints in the song aren’t limited to Republicans.
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You can always find someone pressuring for anything. I'm not a huge fan of the incoming government coalition but there's no doubt of their support for Ukraine. The only thing called into question is the extent of monetary support for Ukrainian refugees. They currently have a similar status as EU citizens, there are talks to reduce that status to the same level as other refugees. We'll see what the results of the negotiations will be.
I do prefer the incoming leader to the existing one, despite the rise of the right the leadershop change is welcome. It has been mentioned a few times, the telegraph have covered it as well as economics and political podcasters. Good to knsow it isnt likely but a cause for concern none the less.
