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  • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

    Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

    Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

    Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

    Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

    And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

    The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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    I wish there were more games that had NSFW stuff, but not as the main focus. BG3, Cyberpunk, The Witcher, etc all have nudity, but the sex scenes are short, cropped, and half assed because they are embarrassed.

    There needs to be quicktime events, better cinematics, and werewolves (BG3, Elder Scrolls, Witcher) during erotic scenes. Bring back A/O games. Many of these shouldn't be even remotely aimed at anyone below 18 anyways.

    Hell, the last genuinely fun game with kink in it was Saints Row 3, and that was for comedic effect.

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    • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

      One other side point that came to mind after the main post.

      We're so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is "wrong" or "sad". But honestly, I realized I played through 3+ games without doing any violence* and had a blast, and that was actually really refreshing.

      *^okay,^ ^no^ ^non-consensual^ ^violence.^ ^I^ ^may^ ^have^ ^slapped^ ^Lyssa's^ ^dick^ ^around,^ ^but^ ^she^ ^requested^ ^it.^

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      It was wild being raised by my mother who didn't mind if I saw consensual sex, because I should eventually have sex, but restricted all violence because ideally I'll never see violence in person.

      I have no idea how good this is a philosophy for raising children. Sample size is too small.

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      • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

        Yeah coomer games are similar to mobile games. Theyre puzzle games that are designed to be extremely easy to make players feel good. They are technically still puzzle games just bad ones.

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        There are tons of great adult games out there that aren't "puzzle games". You are being very ignorant here.

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        • coelacanth@feddit.nuC [email protected]

          I've always felt that puritanical stigmatization of sex and sexuality have really fucked us up psychologically as a species.

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          Puritanism comes down to “happiness is bad.“

          Not just sex; dancing, music, poetry, novels, games, decorations. Anything which takes joy in life and expression is forbidden.

          Suffering while alive is seen as the proper punishment for being born human - seeing people and nature as beautiful and divine is legitimately blasphemy to these people.

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          • zoomboingding@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

            For vnovels, check out Katawa Shoujo. It has a great storyline and characters, and it's free!

            If you're looking for a platformer I'd recommend Flipwitch - Forbidden Sex Hex

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            Flipwitch is a fantastic little Metroidvania that I can't talk to my "normal" gaming friends about.

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              I remember a quote from a famous porn actor "nacho vidal".

              "I'd rather have my kids playing with "fake plastic penises" around the house than playing with fake plastic firearms."

              I'm not comfortable with the idea of kids playing with sexual toys. But it makes me feel something weird that I'm not more weirded out by kids playing to kill with fake guns.

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              I'm pretty sure a majority of people touched a real penis before touching a real gun.

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              • classyhatter@sopuli.xyzC [email protected]

                Modding is a way to add some adult content to some games. For example, Bethesda's games have a very active modding community.

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                Ai, loverslab comes to mind. Used that to kink the hell out of Sims back in the day.

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                • wahots@pawb.socialW [email protected]

                  I wish there were more games that had NSFW stuff, but not as the main focus. BG3, Cyberpunk, The Witcher, etc all have nudity, but the sex scenes are short, cropped, and half assed because they are embarrassed.

                  There needs to be quicktime events, better cinematics, and werewolves (BG3, Elder Scrolls, Witcher) during erotic scenes. Bring back A/O games. Many of these shouldn't be even remotely aimed at anyone below 18 anyways.

                  Hell, the last genuinely fun game with kink in it was Saints Row 3, and that was for comedic effect.

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                  quicktime events

                  Damn I missed the cumshot quick time event. I'm not going to get an s rank for this chapter. Guess I gotta reload...

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                    quicktime events

                    Damn I missed the cumshot quick time event. I'm not going to get an s rank for this chapter. Guess I gotta reload...

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                    Imagine the debuff that blueballs would inflict because you missed the quicktime event

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                    • jeff@programming.devJ [email protected]

                      There are novels that don't measure up to the writing of visual novels.

                      There are comics that don't measure up to the art of visual novels.

                      There are video games that are less engaging than visual novels.

                      Broad generalizations like this are so useless. It's okay that you play one or two visual novels and they weren't for you. I don't particularly like visual novels either, but to discredit an entire genre because of it is just ignorant. I've played some visual novels that were excellent and pushed the boundaries of video games. See Slay the Princess and Doki Doki Literature Club. I'm playing Date Everything right now, it's not exactly innovative, but I'm having fun with it.

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                      That's a load of crap. Visual novels are such an incredibly low bar on literally every front, if you made a comic or a novel that's worse than a VN you'd have been actually trying to out-shit VNs.

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                      • tomenzgg@midwest.socialT [email protected]

                        Not directly to your point but your overall experience just reminds me: we really lost something when the sexual liberation movement was largely erased. People so often dismiss it because we're conditioned to dismiss taking sex seriously (outside of a very narrow and specific context) but there's a lot we lose from that.

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                        Was it erased? We are more comfortable with porn than ever (which I wouldn't say is okay, but definitely not prudish), and after the jews, the biggest boogie man out there is the gender lobby.

                        I say we're in the next phase, and moderators (Visa, Mastercard) need to buckle up for what's coming.

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                          Imagine the debuff that blueballs would inflict because you missed the quicktime event

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                          Imagine if the game knew you save scummed and gave you a blue balls debuff.

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                          • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                            I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                            Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                            Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                            Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                            Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                            And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                            The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                            Your post made me want to check these out. I only ever played one with a friend for kicks. It was a fun, cheap activity, easy to make a drinking game out of.

                            It's like how erotica can still be literature, but people dismiss it for the sexual focus. But I've read erotic stories that had me hooked, made interesting social commentary, had nuanced characters and were just a fantastic time.

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                              Was it erased? We are more comfortable with porn than ever (which I wouldn't say is okay, but definitely not prudish), and after the jews, the biggest boogie man out there is the gender lobby.

                              I say we're in the next phase, and moderators (Visa, Mastercard) need to buckle up for what's coming.

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                              We are more comfortable with porn than ever

                              Are we (edit: 'hope that doesn't sound antagonistic; I more meant it rhetorically)? No-Nut November has only recently dipped in the general consciousness and goon is currently trending as a pejorative. I think we're comfortable with pushing the boundaries and with nodding and winking towards it but outright normalization has a fierce backlash.

                              But part of what the sex. lib. movement was about was both normalization and healthy interaction with sex, not just sexual content being prevalent. There's plenty of unhealthy ideas and performances that the mainstream porn industry perpetuates, much of it relying on satisfying a normative and patriarchal outlook; feminist porn, for example, was/is a much more sex. lib. approach to porn (from giving women more active participation in the sex portrayed (rather than just the receptive of it) to also having the performers express their emotions more (even if minimally) and how the sex they were having made them feel).

                              These goals are much more in line with the emotional experience OP was describing, where it's not just sexual content but a more healthy engagement with that sexual content as well, such as experiencing emotions and attachment. That's part of why OP's descriptions reminded me of it.

                              Mainstream porn, driven by capitalism (which isn't to say all of us aren't in some degree, even indie creators; sadly, that's just the reality, right now), doesn't care about these things.

                              And sex. lib. has a distinct history and activism, much of intertwined with gay liberation and…I think most people don't know that or, like, the battles that were fought for information about safe sex, etc. I mean, it's not unique (most people aren't aware about disability history, for example, or events like the Capital Crawl) but it's still deeply unfortunate.

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                                Imagine if the game knew you save scummed and gave you a blue balls debuff.

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                                You could easily code the game to do that, and it would be hilarious.

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                                • thebat@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                  https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/

                                  I think onscreen chemistry peaked in Casino Royale. Now it all feels clinical/sterile.

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                                  And this isn’t just the lead and the love interest: supporting characters look this way too, and even villains (frequently clad in monstrous makeup) are still played by conventionally attractive performers. Even background extras are good-looking, or at least inoffensively bland. No one is ugly. No one is really fat. Everyone is beautiful.

                                  Heh, this reminds me of this scene in Last Action Hero (Just watch until 1:34 or so for the scene I'm referring to.

                                  Honestly though, I think this might be starting to change. Looking at shows like Resident Alien and Wheel of Time, for example, there are plenty of casting choices that go against that trend. Now, I'm not saying anyone in these shows is ugly or anything like that, but there are a lot of folks being cast who are not "classic Hollywood pretty" and it's very nice to see. I like seeing people playing the everyday Joe art who actually looks like an everyday Joe. It really breaks immersion for me when the "ugly girl" part is played by someone who is beautiful dressed in a frumpy outfit.

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                                  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                    I've always been open to adult only games, but for the vast majority there are only two basic types:

                                    • Visual Novels - Everything about these is fine. They vary from basically just a graphic novel to a full on RPG.

                                    • Nude Puzzles - Various cheap-ass puzzles with nude images as the prize.

                                    I want, like, a real game but with full adult only content. These exist, but are hard to find. And a lot of those I've found aren't finished, never will be finished, and/or just suck. It doesn't even have to be the focus. Just imagine if when you got a hooker in GTA or some other game where brothels might exist, you got to see more than a fade to black/car bouncing around.

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                                    You may have come across it already but Hardcoded may be in the realm you're thinking? https://store.steampowered.com/app/2693710/HARDCODED/

                                    It's still in development but they've done a ton of work on it to, already, be pretty flashed out game and its development hasn't slowed any over the years.

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                                      Your post made me want to check these out. I only ever played one with a friend for kicks. It was a fun, cheap activity, easy to make a drinking game out of.

                                      It's like how erotica can still be literature, but people dismiss it for the sexual focus. But I've read erotic stories that had me hooked, made interesting social commentary, had nuanced characters and were just a fantastic time.

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                                      people dismiss it for the sexual focus.

                                      I stand by this: porn is a largely untapped medium for insanely stupid comedy.

                                      I know we've all seen lemon stealing whores and whatnot, but like, we could have so much more than we do.

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                                      • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                        I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                                        Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                                        Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                                        Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                                        Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                                        And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                                        The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                                        Its wild how gooning and porn are so normalized to the point they harass real woman in their comments and dms 24/7 but god forbid a porn game, I like them ocassionally, when I don't want to be lazy and I'm in a gaming mood, it's like reading some Choose your own adventure erotica with visuals, but the story is porn story adjacent

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                                          Its wild how gooning and porn are so normalized to the point they harass real woman in their comments and dms 24/7 but god forbid a porn game, I like them ocassionally, when I don't want to be lazy and I'm in a gaming mood, it's like reading some Choose your own adventure erotica with visuals, but the story is porn story adjacent

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                                          It seems less bad to me, I actually have to use my brain a little, idk I get bored using the same content daily, every one in a while I'll use vr, comics, books, or a game, but tbh whenever I start to need something extra like that I just don't jerk off for a day to normalize, don't want to enter the gooner mindset

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