Happy #GlobalSwitchDay

[mitm0@lemmy.world]

Basically it's an Open source Whatsapp, but you use Email, instead of a phone number

[amzd@lemmy.world]

Because Signal is not decentralized nor anonymous

[jubilantjaguar@lemmy.world]

But it's a free Europe-based provider that's not US big tech. A better suggestion?

To be clear, I use a paid service (Mailbox.org) for my main email, as everyone should do.

[statick@programming.dev]

I've tried a ton, and DeltaChat came close, but there is no edit option for messages, since under the hood, it uses email. The apps on both iPhone and Android also had issues with notifications. I convinced a few family members and friends to use it and then had to convince them again to move to Signal. Lost a few of them in the process.

The point of my story is to say... If you think you'll have a hard time convincing people to get off WhatsApp/Texting, just go to Signal. It is much more mainstream and at least it isn't Facebook.

[brewchin@lemmy.world]

I've worked with both in my career. Tell me more...

[itsapersonn@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Not federated, but definitely anonymous. All Signal messages are E2EE, and Signal can't even access your messages. They literally have a page where they list every time they've been asked by the government to give info, and they can't.
https://signal.org/bigbrother/

[moseschrute@lemmy.world]

Wait that’s really funny

[lars@fedihub.space]

@[email protected]

Well, my only concern is that on the one hand the company is very meticulous about the internal network, but on the other hand messengers such as WhatsApp, etc. are used for internal communication. That doesn't go together. TikTok is just a new addition.

It's clear that Peertube etc. don't have the reach.

[autonomoususer@lemmy.world]

I'd focus on messengers.

[sneakyninjapants@sh.itjust.works]

So if you don't need to create an account, how do you know you're talking to who you think you're talking to?

You use your email provider's credentials to log into the app, which then creates an IMAP folder called delta-chat which houses all those conversations.

You'd verify it's your mom by starting a chat with "[email protected]" she'd verify it's you by making sure it's coming from "[email protected]"

[udon@lemmy.world]

It's a good one (Signal as well, though). My favorite design decision was to tie it into the email ecosystem, so if anyone tries to block it, they will have to block email, which their business buddies won't be happy about.

Some more here:

https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-oio-154-delta-chat-e-mail-based-messaging-the-rustocalypse-and-ux-driven-approach-ybti-wefixthenet-session-

[umbrella@lemmy.ml]

with these its more about whos using it

[kolanaki@pawb.social]

Yeah. Bit hard to switch messenger apps when they don't talk to each other if nobody you're talking to switches with you.

[solarpunker@slrpnk.net]

SimpleX is the best alternative right now, email is a very bad protocol

[fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com]

So is matrix and it's way more popular.