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Firefox deletes promise to never sell personal data, asks users not to panic

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  • S [email protected]

    Which is better than death (relevant part at 4:44).

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    Eddie Izzard?

    What. Could. Be. More. Surprising.

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    • U [email protected]

      It's a browser, not a platform. Having a bunch of groypers use it doesn't ruin the experience for everyone else so long as it retains good privacy features.

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      While I agree with this sentiment on the surface, using a privacy focused application that was built by folks who yield to cops as part of their identity doesn’t inspire long term viability in that space.

      It’s the same reason I moved away from Proton when their CEO told us all where his values lie. It’s not outright backtracking on privacy promises but with so many comparable alternatives in this space, why chance it with the bootlickers?

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      • M [email protected]

        Do you know what impact this would have on extensions though? Would extensions developed for current Firefox versions work securely in Pale Moon?

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        The Pale Moon extensions are different from the Firefox ones and not compatible with each other. Please look at the available extensions in Pale Moon to see your favourite feature is implemented or not.

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        • F [email protected]

          Been using it all day now and yeah, it’s very smooth sailing. The tweaks I made basically involved removing fingerprinting protection, which I saw people online deride as “defeating the entire purpose of Librewolf”. Well, not true anymore.

          I just want manifest v3 and to not have to consent to ToS agreements implicitly allowing some suspicious organisation to harvest and sell literally any keypress I enter into the browser, which has become the de facto cross platform way to do almost everything.

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          How do the fingerprinting protection things defeat the purpose of librewolf? Seems like an unambiguously good thing for privacy... Or does it conflict with another feature?

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            How do the fingerprinting protection things defeat the purpose of librewolf? Seems like an unambiguously good thing for privacy... Or does it conflict with another feature?

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            Oh, sorry for the confusion. The posts online I’ve found about the subject of disabling fingerprinting protection in Librewolf are full of people who state that doing so “defeats the purpose of Librewolf”. Which probably WAS true before Mozilla’s recent changes, since the sole reason Librewolf had to exist was to be a hardened version of Firefox.

            That’s no longer the case since Librewolf has a new purpose (now that Mozilla thinks they own the right to sell all your data): a Firefox fork without Mozilla.

            I disabled a lot of that stuff because it’s kind of annoying for usability, e.g. browser won’t render anything at more than 60fps. I know this is a trade off and I’m cool with that. I have other tools and strategies in place to protect my privacy.

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            • ? Guest

              zen, ladybird, waterfox are some that i've heard of before. zen is out now. idk about the others. one of my friends uses zen and it's pretty neat.

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              zen is still unstable. random errors and bugs show up very often

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              • _ [email protected]

                Perhaps Ladybug once it's released?

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                we should all support ladybird project in hope for accelerated development. alpha in 2026, beta in 2027, stable in 2028. thats a long waiting time

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                • M [email protected]

                  what is your current open source / FOSS alternative?

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                  LibreWolf on desktop and Fennec on phone.

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                  • D [email protected]

                    Switched yesterday, feeling right at home so far.

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                    Me too. Practically 0 difference, works for me!

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                    • D [email protected]

                      In the US at least, the courts are seemingly bought out.

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                      Sad it's even acceptable.

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