An Iraqi man who carried out several Quran burnings in Sweden has been killed

[fxomt@lemm.ee]

Then sorry. I thought so due to him being Iraqi, concern of him being deported and executed, and his reason for burning the Qur'ans originally.

[plastic_ramses@lemmy.world]

Nah fuck that, If muslims cant handle it they should look the other way like they do when women are stoned to death for showing their hair.

[fantasticdonkey@reddthat.com]

What exactly more than a religion is it?

[fantasticdonkey@reddthat.com]

Thanks, while we’re at it let’s burn some books by Jewish authors too.

See what I did there? Burning books is never a good look on you.

[fantasticdonkey@reddthat.com]

Thanks for generalizing 1.5bn people, Ben Affleck

[8000gnat@reddthat.com]

not sure what you think the bible is

[shezzagrad@lemmy.ml]

Because that's be antisemetic and how dare you to anything against the Jewish people, don't you know European persecuted them so the entire world now can't anything to them due to white guilt

[yesman@lemmy.world]

[splinter@lemm.ee]

Are you saying his killing was justified?

[fantasticdonkey@reddthat.com]

Your point being?

[fantasticdonkey@reddthat.com]

Yeah tbh as a Muslim it’s pretty tiring and offensive to read all of that shit when most of us are just busy living our lives like everyone else. And we’re here on the supposedly progressive and liberal Lemmy…

[amidfuror@fedia.io]

There's burning all the copies of a book from the local library so no one has a chance to read them, and there's burning one copy of a book which as an estimated 100 million copies printed per year as a protest.

To some the Quran is as hateful as Mein Kampf, and you know what people say about tolerance of intolerance. You may not agree, and you may think books should never be burned. I am on the fence on that. But I do know people who burn books shouldn't be assassinated. And people shouldn't live in fear of reprisals for speaking out against any religion and its teachings.

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

Wait, are you suggesting that its a bad idea to generalize what a billion plus people living in vastly different places and situations believe? /s

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

Wasn’t that Sam Harris who was being islamophobic and Affleck was defending them?

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

Is this accepted in most Western countries? It might he legal in the USA but most would think ypu are a weird asshole for burning a holy book.

[reksas@sopuli.xyz]

the man wanted to incite hatred, show him middlefinger by doing the opposite

[dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de]

How do we know he wanted that?

I see the post that says he was being charged with inciting hatred, but also says his act was protected under free speech.

I think it’s dumb to be burning books as the only people who are going to be pissed are the fundamentalists and they’re always pissed off anyway, but I respect his right to free expression.

[reksas@sopuli.xyz]

What other possible reason would someone have to burn a book that is to some more important than their life. Either people dont care about it or become enraged.
And just because you have right to do something doesnt mean you should. His actions have caused a lot of harm, also most likely his own death too.

For argument's sake, lets assume he had some positive reason for his actions. Has there been a single positive thing that has come from this?
If you want to do good you need to think the consequences through and if you dont then you shouldnt do anything at all.

[supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz]

To some the Quran is as hateful as _Mein Kampf

I am atheist/agnostic but it is downright offensive to compare any major religious work from a major world religion (let's arbitrarily define that as more than 1 billion followers) to that shitbook from a genocidal maniac.

The Bible, the Quran, Hindu texts like the Vegas or upanishads... to say I know more than a passing knowledge about these works would be a lie but I know enough to understand there is real good in those books mixed up with problematic aspects, subject to a constant conversation and study by practinioners that attempts to reconcile and interpret the best parts of those things onto a way forward.

Mein Kampf is just hateful trash, it isn't worth reading, go read The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann (Woods translation) or listen to the superb audio book, it came out of Germany at basically the same moment and it is vastly superior in every respect as a work of intellectual and political introspection and it is actually fun.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magic_Mountain

https://campuspress.yale.edu/modernismlab/the-magic-mountain/

https://www.americamagazine.org/arts-culture/2022/12/13/thomas-mann-franklin-freeman-revisited-244293

[fantasticdonkey@reddthat.com]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zsecVLjabzY

Just a stupid joke and I mixed up Ben Affleck with Ethan Hawke