Bezos wedding: Venice protestors claim 'enormous victory' after venue change
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Keep on serfin' simp.
You need people to organize and give directions. People on their own are trapped in the routines they have. There will never be built something pretty like Venice without leaders. All you do by making the recognition of leadership toxic is that there won't be leaders [that you can choose or build up] who organize a better life for you.
To add to this:
Venice is the historic city of global trade that is filled with tourist second homes. To celebrate with the inhabitants is simping on its own. The working people don't live in Venice anymore. People who object are other rich people who feel diminished because they cannot rent the city themselves.
The elephant in the room is the introduction of the tourist ticket for Venice. How can Bezos rent the city? He must have bought all tickets for the day. Now, was the ticket introduced by his influence to make that possible? That would be something to object, not the renting itself.
This is the most disgusting comment I've seen on Lemmy. People got priced out, but we sure need leaders so lets bring more rich assholes in to fuck everyone.
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You earlier "If it wasnt for people like bezos venice wouldn't exist!"
you now; "yeah bezos isn't to blame its the system!"
hes part of the system, literally you are going to bat for a rich man then backing down to save face. "please spit in my mouth, bezos!" is your thesis and don't even try to pretend anymore. I would say its you who has double standards here but its clear you have no standards.
keep licking that boot.
Yep. Dude bought the system.
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So you do recognise that. Then why are you spending so much energy defending Bezos and people like him?
Sure, regular people should rise up and retake power. Take back resources from the billionaires. Idk who "we" are - but I don't live in USA, and if I did I wouldn't be living in a democracy. There are plenty of plans for how to save the planet and they all include stopping billionaires and fundamentally changing the system. Think Bezos will bankroll it if we ask him nicely?
Because this is backwards. Billionaires fill the void that people don't fill. The system could be changed right now if people stopped focussing on billionaires and would create their own structures.
Yes, people are kept stupid. But believing that all it takes is getting rid of billionaires is part of the disinformation.
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“Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand. They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are because we had to discover the compensations and refuges of life for ourselves. Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we
are. They are different. ”- F. Scott Fitzgerald
wrote on last edited by [email protected]That's a great Fitzgerald quote. I had to look it up. Written after The Great Gatsby but published shortly before, The Rich Boy is a novelette. From 1926.
- I fucking hate knowing history. I fucking hate feeling like Cassandra.
Sometimes a DIY icepick lobotomy doesn't sound like a bad idea.
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Because this is backwards. Billionaires fill the void that people don't fill. The system could be changed right now if people stopped focussing on billionaires and would create their own structures.
Yes, people are kept stupid. But believing that all it takes is getting rid of billionaires is part of the disinformation.
What structures are people supposed to create exactly?
I never claimed it was the entire problem and that it solve all of humanity's issues, but the system that they've helped create and now benefit from is what's destroying both the world and humanity. Eating just a few of them wouldn't change that but it'd be a start. That's why the fact that a few hundreds of brave Venetians won't let him do whatever he wants in their home is awesome. Entitled motherfuckers coming in their private planes and yachts acting like they own a city that's literally sinking and where locals can hardly make a living.
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This is the most disgusting comment I've seen on Lemmy. People got priced out, but we sure need leaders so lets bring more rich assholes in to fuck everyone.
The point is that if you foster the leaders yourself you are not led by rich assholes but by people that you choose and who respect you.
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The point is that if you foster the leaders yourself you are not led by rich assholes but by people that you choose and who respect you.
He is not a leader. A guy who lets empliyees die in tornadoes because he just can't let them off work is not a leader. A guy who polices employees so aggressively that they have to pee in bottles is not a leader. A guy who funds the celebration of a technoauthoritarian state is not a leader. A guy who violates antitrust laws to stamp out small businesses is not a leader. He's a scourge and should be shunned. He's extremely bad for society and probably our whole species.
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What structures are people supposed to create exactly?
I never claimed it was the entire problem and that it solve all of humanity's issues, but the system that they've helped create and now benefit from is what's destroying both the world and humanity. Eating just a few of them wouldn't change that but it'd be a start. That's why the fact that a few hundreds of brave Venetians won't let him do whatever he wants in their home is awesome. Entitled motherfuckers coming in their private planes and yachts acting like they own a city that's literally sinking and where locals can hardly make a living.
What structures are people supposed to create exactly?
That's to be determined. I don't know how people want to live.
What Bezos has done for Amazon, which is ignored as he "doesn't work", has to be replaced. People have to be organized. The structure can be anything that works, but it has to be something.
Same for all the other billionaires that people don't want to see in power.
Entitled motherfuckers coming in their private planes and yachts acting like they own a city that’s literally sinking and where locals can hardly make a living.
Haven't locals already been replaced by millionaires and moved to Mestre? I don't want to root for millionaires who feel diminished by billionaires.
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He is not a leader. A guy who lets empliyees die in tornadoes because he just can't let them off work is not a leader. A guy who polices employees so aggressively that they have to pee in bottles is not a leader. A guy who funds the celebration of a technoauthoritarian state is not a leader. A guy who violates antitrust laws to stamp out small businesses is not a leader. He's a scourge and should be shunned. He's extremely bad for society and probably our whole species.
Yes, if you want to define it like that.
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I've tried it, it doesn't work. It just made my back sore...
I'm sure the Venetians would gladly help lex luthor with any difficulties in bending
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What structures are people supposed to create exactly?
That's to be determined. I don't know how people want to live.
What Bezos has done for Amazon, which is ignored as he "doesn't work", has to be replaced. People have to be organized. The structure can be anything that works, but it has to be something.
Same for all the other billionaires that people don't want to see in power.
Entitled motherfuckers coming in their private planes and yachts acting like they own a city that’s literally sinking and where locals can hardly make a living.
Haven't locals already been replaced by millionaires and moved to Mestre? I don't want to root for millionaires who feel diminished by billionaires.
What is it you think Bezos does and has done "for Amazon" that makes him so important? The main thing he was good at was knowing how to rig the system. If he died tomorrow you'll see that Amazon will do just as fine, possibly even better. He's not even the CEO anymore. People can't just "create structures" when all the world's resources are owned by regimes and big corporations. If I create my own Amazon-equivalent they're gonna destroy me before I ever make it big.
The Old City is being heavily depopulated, yes. Locals can hardly even live their anymore. So why wouldn't thry be angry?
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Ironic. Venice was built by people like Bezos.
No matter how one looks at that assertion, it's just plain fucking wrong.
Did slave owners build Venice? No. Rich Romans? Also no. Someone who isn't a slave owner but worked all his subjects to the bone? Nope as well.
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Meanwhile, Venice is sinking. But money is more important.
Don't you need money to stop Venice sinking?
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Because they wouldn't get to that position if they were just plain stupid. But it's amazing what someone can fail to understand when their livelihood depends on it.
Because they wouldn't get to that position if they were just plain stupid.
Counterpoint: Trump
The influence of money outweighs intelligence every time, which is precisely why your second statement holds true.
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What is it you think Bezos does and has done "for Amazon" that makes him so important? The main thing he was good at was knowing how to rig the system. If he died tomorrow you'll see that Amazon will do just as fine, possibly even better. He's not even the CEO anymore. People can't just "create structures" when all the world's resources are owned by regimes and big corporations. If I create my own Amazon-equivalent they're gonna destroy me before I ever make it big.
The Old City is being heavily depopulated, yes. Locals can hardly even live their anymore. So why wouldn't thry be angry?
If I create my own Amazon-equivalent they’re gonna destroy me before I ever make it big
Start an AWS in Europe now. You should even get government support.
What is it you think Bezos does and has done “for Amazon” that makes him so important? T
Have you seen my great man comments? Nothing in particular. But if people want to do without billionaires, they have to do "it" by themselves.
Locals can hardly even live their anymore. So why wouldn’t thry be angry?
Are they? "Pay more tax" sounds like a demand from American expats. More irony if they are defending Venice from Bezos.
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If I create my own Amazon-equivalent they’re gonna destroy me before I ever make it big
Start an AWS in Europe now. You should even get government support.
What is it you think Bezos does and has done “for Amazon” that makes him so important? T
Have you seen my great man comments? Nothing in particular. But if people want to do without billionaires, they have to do "it" by themselves.
Locals can hardly even live their anymore. So why wouldn’t thry be angry?
Are they? "Pay more tax" sounds like a demand from American expats. More irony if they are defending Venice from Bezos.
There's plenty of Cloud companies in the works currently; I already applied for a position at Evroc. But it's not all that Amazon does.
Run corporations by ourselves? Gladly! When do the CEOs step down?
Definitely Italian names and groups being mentioned in the article. Might be some Americans and others inbetween; it's a struggle mirrored around the world. Can just be a reference to the fact that Bezos and Amazon are known tax evaders - including for their EU business. And yes, I'd imagine that people aren't happy about being priced out of their own communities - hence the widespread anti-tourism protests in general
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I think the Titanic could use a few more wealthy visitors.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I hear there's a well-known company that started taking tourists down to it a few years back! They were all over the press! Sounds like a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity!
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"We are very proud of this! We are nobodies, we have no money, nothing!" Tommaso Cacciari, from a group calling itself No Space for Bezos, told the BBC.
"We're just citizens who started organising and we managed to move one of the most powerful people in the world - all the billionaires - out of the city."
The wedding kicks off later this week, and has a star-studded guest list of the rich and famous that is rumoured to include Kim Kardashian, Mick Jagger and Leonardo diCaprio, as well as several of the Trumps.
That picture. He's one monocle away from being a bond villain and she looks like she's halfway through the transformation into a vampire on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He's even got one eyebrow raised like the monocle is already there. I wonder if he's just used to wearing one in his evil lair.
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No matter how one looks at that assertion, it's just plain fucking wrong.
Did slave owners build Venice? No. Rich Romans? Also no. Someone who isn't a slave owner but worked all his subjects to the bone? Nope as well.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You have it backwards. Do I miss the /s?
Did slave owners build Venice? No.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_slave_trade
Rich Romans? Also no.
This is further supported by documentation on the so-called "apostolic families", the twelve founding families of Venice who elected the first doge, who in most cases traced their lineage back to Roman families
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Republic_of_Venice
Bezos doesn't come from a rich family
Ted was a Danish American unicyclist born in Chicago to a family of Baptists.
Ted struggled with alcohol and with his finances. Jacklyn left her husband to live with her parents, filing for divorce in June 1965 when Jeff was 17 months old.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos
Bezos is a rich trader, like the Venetians. Compared to them he doesn't look that bad.
Downvoters, these are facts and OP is wrong. You should't build your convictions on lies. Find valid reasons for the things you want to do.
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You’re only bringing that up because it’s a highly relevant and logical solution to the problem of isolated and ego driven wealth objectively and negatively affecting society on a global scale, way to strawman, libtard.
You forgot to defend the conservative ideal of the Roman empire as the supreme fascist state! You need to talk about how the romans allowed the free market (with the guiding hand of daddy imperator) to determine where the money should go! Tell them that the money was used to build roads, not for trade, but to march their very manly soldiers on against the commies and the libs!
