Germany is on its way to facism

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The same procedure as last year?

The same procedure as every year!

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Me too. Im not exactly sure where, but im quite sure i have seen this.

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Here is one by the guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/29/german-immigration-motion-passes-breaking-taboo-on-cooperation-with-afd

I'm still in shock

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How is this same as last time? The last time things were this bad were in fact in Germany in the 1930s & 40s. To my knowledge it hasn’t been as bad as it is now since that point. So tell me how last Trump presidency where all he did was try to pad his wallet is as bad as it is now. Last time he wanted to make himself rich, yet this time he wants to become actual hitler. Don’t get me wrong, I was made physically ill last time, but this is measurably worse because he has support from actual nazis to embolden him, a plan from actual nazis to deify him, and that plan will also make him a king. This is a serious issue, but nothing that has happened in America has been like this before, ever.

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Fascism is when you have a cult of struggle and sacrifice, a cult of hierarchy, that is not seen as contradictory to a cult of internal hostility (the strongest raise to rule, being the most fit), a cult of colorful violence of the strong over the weak as the main judicial principle, a cult of irrationality, a cult of emotion and a cult of death.

These are spread between today's left and right and center parties almost evenly. Of course AfD is more chauvinist, but nobody really wants fascists in high positions.

Modern group most resembling actual fascism was ISIS. It's not something common in the West or on a nation-state level.

My point is - don't devalue the word, because as with everything else you will need it eventually for its actual meaning.

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This, but unironically. All fascist movements in Europe have copied the Trump media sphere, where it doesn't matter how brazen the lie is, it only matters how confidently you present it and never accept wrongdoing. Similarly, while not as bad as in the US, for Germany at least, we also copied the US Democrats playbook of do-as-little-as-necessary, while the rich get richer and richer, which in turn has driven a majority of the people into poverty, which is one big reason why there is so much anger in society the fascists can capitalize on.

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I had the same doubts when I saw the first reports, but this image then cleared things up for me, so I happily share the discovery Thank you for posting in English for everyone, it's important for the European citizen to know what's going on.

The request has 5 points:

Permament controls at the borders of the German Federal Republic (using the emergency provision of the Schengen Borders Code), de facto ending the free movement of European Citizens;
Blocking the access to the country to anyone not possessing adequate documentation (making it near impossible to come and request asylum);
Immediate sequestration of anyone required to leave the German soil, ordering the creation of special detention camps to keep up with the induced demand;
Request of active participation of the Bundesländer (regions) with information regarding the financing and support to create detention camps;
Tightening of the right of residence for offenders and dangerous persons: Offenders and dangerous persons who are obliged to leave the country should remain in an indefinite detention until they return to their home country voluntarily or their deportation can be carried out.

Source: https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/20/146/2014698.pdf

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offtopic: It's interesting, when comparing century-old and today's German formal language, how sentences are now structured more similar to English. I don't know German (only a bit), just interested in languages. Due to sentence and text structure this picture is much more understandable than something, well, old enough.

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I’m not talking about the last Trump term.

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To add: today there is the debate and iirc. decision in the parliament, whether to call the constitutional court to investigate whether or not to forbid the fascist party AfD.

There has been back and forth debates about whether or not to do this, despite strong indications that the AfD is an enemy to the constitution and the rights granted therein.

Only the federal parliament, the state assembly or the federal government can task the constitutional court to start an investigation. The federal government has so far not done anything to this regard. Also more right wing politicians among the less right wing parties are undermining the effort in the parliament, wanting to block or delay the tasking. The procedure at the court would likely take 3-5 years, which means that a failure now to bring up the motion would likely grant the AfD at least one additional federal election after the upcoming election in three weeks.

If the motion fails, it will be a complete failure of the "democratic" parties, who are basically rolling out the carpet for the fascists at this point.

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The last time things were this bad were in fact in Germany in the 1930s & 40s. To my knowledge it hasn’t been as bad as it is now since that point.

Right wing social media wants you to believe that is is as bad; or even worse. Facts don't matter, feelings do.

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I vaguely remember this from history class in school. Something something Weimar Republic...

::: spoiler I have a hunch how this will end
The bad guys win. Then we'll have Word War at some point. Not sure about being liberated afterwards, though.
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Exactly, people on Lemmy call just about anything they don't agree with fascist. If everything is fascist, nothing is.

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Just a point of note - the liberation by outside forces last time wasn't done for the benefit of those being exterminated (hell, every single one of the allies had a significant part in either rejecting refugees, or actively doing oppressing and outright exterminating of their own before the war even started), but for the benefit of those countries leaders, and finances.

So there might be liberation, but it'll only exist to enable us to return to "normalcy" which is the capitalist status quo that keeps leading to world wars (because they're that profitable).

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If Germans once again vote like sheeple, I'm not sure how the rest of Europe will react this time. Maybe it'll be the same mistake of "nah, they surely won't be that crazy" until tanks roll into Warsaw and Paris. Who knows.

But the German population has the chance to stop this at the next elections. They just have to decide that they want to. If not, well, they make their own beds.

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Specifically, the conservative/fascist sphere has figured out, via brute testing, how to refine their "narative" stories and marketing of those stories, alongside with how to use social media for it (personalized messaging and astroturfing). They know how to hack the masses or at least the relevant electorate.

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I wonder why they chose to do it right before the elections

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It's Einfache Sprache, nowhere close to the formal register.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/adolf-hitler-secret-billionaire

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Sadly a lot of the voters dont care. It is literally the same as in the US, where over 50% voted for a facist.

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Germany is on its way to facism