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The best thing you can do for the fediverse is just be kind

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    Generalizing is logical fallacy. Not all Republicans are Nazis.

    Some are rotten. Some are good people that just got duped.

    It's not black and white.

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    If you’ve been getting duped for 50 years, then maybe you’re just too stupid to vote. People with a bit of a plant in their pocket have been disenfranchised for a lot less

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      Nope. They've had plenty of time to see the results of their actions. They're complicit at this point.

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      That’s the part that I still can’t wrap my head around. We know it will be shameless shilling and nepotism along with stochastic terrorism and still vote for it anyway? Wtf

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        If you’ve been getting duped for 50 years, then maybe you’re just too stupid to vote. People with a bit of a plant in their pocket have been disenfranchised for a lot less

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        MAGA wasn't formed until 2016, the party was much different before Trump. But who cares I guess. It seems people just want to hate the other side here. Which is no better than them.

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        • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

          It makes tactical sense to partner with liberals in some contexts, like a national liberation struggle, and to put aside lesser contradictions to focus on the principal contradiction. It doesn't make sense to partner with liberals while under capitalism, especially not within the imperial core. The liberals in congress don't have a shared goal in stopping fascism.

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          What, a Zionist genocidaire giving a performative twenty five hour faux filibuster is not stopping fascism?

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          • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

            That is a very specific interpretation of what I meant by this post.

            To be perfectly honest, I really wasn't making the point you should approve of nazis. Just that maybe it's worth putting effort into being kind to one another...

            For example, I constantly see leftists online biting eachother's heads off (including on lemmy) for having slightly different left-wing ideology. Its not like "approach people you disagree with with curiosity" means specifically actual neonazis, and approaching someone with curiosity doesn't mean telling people "your idea is correct and you're right for thinking it"

            It means trying to understand it. You can dislike someone and still gain from better understanding their worldview. Even if you think it's harmful. Even if you think it's illogical. Even if you think they're wrong. Curiousity isn't tacit approval.

            If you want to think about it cynically you can consider it creating allies and knowing your enemy.

            I understand we disagree on certain things, that's okay, these are just my thoughts on the subject, and it's a profoundly important one, so I can appreciate why people would have different strongly held beliefs on it. Hope you have a good one 🙂

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            Right wingers voted for the Republicans who are now attempting a fascist coup.

            Idk what to tell you

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              MAGA wasn't formed until 2016, the party was much different before Trump. But who cares I guess. It seems people just want to hate the other side here. Which is no better than them.

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              It seems people just want to hate the other side here. Which is no better than them.

              🙄

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                MAGA wasn't formed until 2016, the party was much different before Trump. But who cares I guess. It seems people just want to hate the other side here. Which is no better than them.

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                Before that was the tea party loons, before that was the airbrushed WMD photos, before that was McCarthyism…

                When the other side is always fascist, the answer is always FUCK OFF NAZI PUNKS

                (Maybe people wouldn’t hate the “other side” if it wasn’t straight up 4th reich on paper 🤷)

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                  What, a Zionist genocidaire giving a performative twenty five hour faux filibuster is not stopping fascism?

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                  lol a few days after he did that speech he voted to approve another $8.8 billion in arms sales to Israel 🤡

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                    Love how the point of the post is “hey try to be nice” and everyone sounding off in the comments like “FUCK YOU AND FUCK THOSE SPECIFIC GUYS TOO”

                    Maybe more people should just post their reviews of vacuums here

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                    Sucky! sucky! five dolla!

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                    • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                      The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                      On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                      • Be kind

                      • Ask people what they think, and why

                      • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                      • Engage sincerely

                      • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                      • Make this small space worth being in

                      A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                      Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                      The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                      Oh trust me, I try to be as kind as possible. But the people here, Oh my...
                      I got hated on for "using too much HTML".

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                        No. Kindness is often a tool for conservatives to maintain power. It's important, but integrity is more important.

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                        The world is not America, buddy.

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                          No. Kindness is often a tool for conservatives to maintain power. It's important, but integrity is more important.

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                          @orcrist @Cris_Color You needn't be unkind to have integrity, and if your ideas aren't at least considered without force, they're probably wrong.
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                            Before that was the tea party loons, before that was the airbrushed WMD photos, before that was McCarthyism…

                            When the other side is always fascist, the answer is always FUCK OFF NAZI PUNKS

                            (Maybe people wouldn’t hate the “other side” if it wasn’t straight up 4th reich on paper 🤷)

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                            I'm just going to ask you a question. Do you think Mitt Romney was a fascist?

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                              Love how the point of the post is “hey try to be nice” and everyone sounding off in the comments like “FUCK YOU AND FUCK THOSE SPECIFIC GUYS TOO”

                              Maybe more people should just post their reviews of vacuums here

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                              The vast majority of people here are reddit refugees, raised on a website that encourages being a prentious dick(me inclusive, too often, though I'm trying to be better) it's unsurprising they'd take issue with the message

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                                Oh trust me, I try to be as kind as possible. But the people here, Oh my...
                                I got hated on for "using too much HTML".

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                                The Internet were a mistake. Pre-internet life was much kinder.

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                                  If you’ve been getting duped for 50 years, then maybe you’re just too stupid to vote. People with a bit of a plant in their pocket have been disenfranchised for a lot less

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                                  Perhaps. However. on the other side I think of this quote. "Poor people have been voting democrat for 50 years, and they're still poor..."

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                                  • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                    The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                                    On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                                    • Be kind

                                    • Ask people what they think, and why

                                    • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                                    • Engage sincerely

                                    • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                                    • Make this small space worth being in

                                    A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                                    Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                                    The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                                    Hey this is a nice post, I wonder what the comments say :3 click

                                    "Oh you think being kind is good? You're a fascist OP >:T. You can't make me vote republican"

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                                      No. Kindness is often a tool for conservatives to maintain power. It's important, but integrity is more important.

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                                      Kindness is a tool for conservatives to maintain power

                                      Uh... Complimenting peoples art and having sincere discussions about what you think and why with folks on Lemmy grants conservatives power?

                                      I get that lots of folks are frustrated with the constant liberal compromising but a) that's not "kindness" and b) that's not what I'm saying you do. This post isn't about telling people they should approve of Nazis. Its about building a healthy culture, here, in this online space, that facilitates positive interactions worth having.

                                      I wish you and the others who commented along those lines could appreciate how exhausting this is as a person literally just saying we should be kind to the people we share this space with.

                                      Look around. Basically every person here is left of center. I'm left of center. You don't have to be combative with me just because we don't exactly agree on everything.

                                      Kindness is not a malicious conservative plot, nor is that what this post was about. And on that note, I clearly need to step away because in the same way that a lot of people's emotions are high, mine are too now and I'm loosing my ability to engage with people in the way that I want to.

                                      Take care, and I hope you have a good night/day

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                                      • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                        The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                                        On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                                        • Be kind

                                        • Ask people what they think, and why

                                        • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                                        • Engage sincerely

                                        • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                                        • Make this small space worth being in

                                        A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                                        Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                                        The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                                        Agreed, love it!

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                                          Hey this is a nice post, I wonder what the comments say :3 click

                                          "Oh you think being kind is good? You're a fascist OP >:T. You can't make me vote republican"

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                                          I'm glad there's still sane people here.

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