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The best thing you can do for the fediverse is just be kind

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  • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

    The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

    On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

    • Be kind

    • Ask people what they think, and why

    • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

    • Engage sincerely

    • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

    • Make this small space worth being in

    A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

    Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

    The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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    Most people know this in some capacity, but it's not talked about enough: the shape of the platform massively shapes its culture. Every mechanism, intentional feature or not, is a factor in resulting user behavior and should be accounted for.

    Reddit Karma was (shitty) reputation from the start, but Slashdot user IDs became one despite being mere sequential identifiers; negative user feedback such as downvotes can be harmful to communities (yet, users without an outlet may lash out in other ways e.g. reports); even how the platform communicates with users influences them; and so on.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't be nice and incentivize others to do the same, but unless the system naturally leads to the desired behavior, you'll have a bad time in the long term because building culture by interactions doesn't scale. By the time you realize there's a shift, it's too late; interactions will compound and affect how the average user acts faster than you can try to course-correct.

    I wish lemmy was more experimental, because by building a clone of reddit, we've copied too many of its faults. We've already got gatherings to complain about mods, and the one time devs considered changing a core component, discussion was killed by an onslaught of users. Problems with the current setup that were brought up then will likely never see that amount of people thinking about how to solve them.

    Contrast with Mastodon, which gets crap for not being a more faithful copy of twitter, but their reasoning for not including quote-reblogs is understandable. They're now putting a lot of thought into how to add them safely. Not ignoring functionality users want, but also not ignoring how it will affect culture, that's compromise.

    I'd like it if we could talk more about how our platforms work and, specifically, how they affect us.

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      If you think political stances can be adequately expressed along a single line, then you're not much better I'm afraid. Engage with the nuance, friend, it'll build understanding and be better for all of us.

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      that's what i've been saying for a while now. like a healthy organism that has both left and right hands, society too shall have both right and left people in it. that is not a problem. what is the problem is that these different parts are not communicating clearly enough and it's causing dysfunction of society.

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      • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie#Modern_Internet_uses but actually https://www.joewrote.com/p/jfk-files-reveal-the-cia-role-in

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        CIA again

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        • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

          The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

          On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

          • Be kind

          • Ask people what they think, and why

          • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

          • Engage sincerely

          • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

          • Make this small space worth being in

          A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

          Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

          The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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          A big problem is too much politics, feels like politics is always brought up even in posts where it's not the topic of discussion. Just look at this post. Then if someone disagrees with your view they'll attack you and then they'll claim they "are on the right side". People have forgotten the golden rule.

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          • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

            The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

            On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

            • Be kind

            • Ask people what they think, and why

            • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

            • Engage sincerely

            • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

            • Make this small space worth being in

            A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

            Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

            The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

            v4ld1z@lemmy.zipV This user is from outside of this forum
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            Love your take and call to action. Appreciate it 🙂 and I'm not surprised it's coming from you either 🙂

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              Trump's first term was nothing like this. It wasn't full on facism like the current term. The economy wasn't being completely obliterated and people weren't being disappeared.

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              He told people with swatikas tattooed on their bodies to coup the government!

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              • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                • Be kind

                • Ask people what they think, and why

                • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                • Engage sincerely

                • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                • Make this small space worth being in

                A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                It's a great idea but unfortunately we don't live in that world anymore. I do hope one day we can get back to that world.

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                • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                  The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                  On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                  • Be kind

                  • Ask people what they think, and why

                  • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                  • Engage sincerely

                  • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                  • Make this small space worth being in

                  A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                  Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                  The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                  #267

                  If I'm in a toxic mood, I go to reddit.

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                  • tabbsthebat@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                    Im not a US citizen (or a citizen of any other country that has a republican party), so that may be more work than you're signing up for on your end.. getting a citizenship can take ages :3

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                    Not if you ask Republicans. You can be fresh off the boat than you can run to the nearest voting booth and steal the election

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                      OP simply asks people to be kind, People proceed to tear each other apart..

                      OP now knows how Jesus felt 🤣

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                      Or how Doctor Who felt after asking the master for help.

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                        Not if you ask Republicans. You can be fresh off the boat than you can run to the nearest voting booth and steal the election

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                        Well wouldn't know :3 I've not tried it x3

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                        • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                          I can empathize with your anger but I do think it's easy to forget just how much propaganda can shape peoples world views and idea of reality. It's used so heavily because it works 😞

                          Regardless, I'm not trying to start a fight, I can appreciate having no more tolerance for the increasing cruelty of the state of the world. Take care ❤️

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                          Republican core values are anti-human. Right from there, we have nothing to talk about.

                          Get these lizard people off our planet!

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                          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                            that's what i've been saying for a while now. like a healthy organism that has both left and right hands, society too shall have both right and left people in it. that is not a problem. what is the problem is that these different parts are not communicating clearly enough and it's causing dysfunction of society.

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                            Which one of your hand has the ideology that hinges on erasing the other?

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                              If you know what you are arguing and argue with tankies/Nazis in good faith, nine times out of ten they will eventually lose their temper and make fools of themselves. There is no need to be hostile to begin with, they just defeat themselves basically because their ideologies are totally flawed (kinda like in real life).

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                              These people don't deserve validation.

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                              • A [email protected]

                                Technically anyone can spin up an instance centered on whatever dark and inhumane topic. That's the reality of an open network. That's why defederation and whitelisting are such important tools as Fediverse grows. You don't actually want access to every last bit of information on the network.

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                                That's what you think. My head is a blackhole, and it's hungry for more!

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                                • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                                  You’ve once again shown your empty accusations and insults, contrary to OP’s advice in this post.

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                                  You will never be accepted in this space no matter how many alt accounts you make to downvote people.

                                  This isn't reddit you fascist, your tactics don't work here.

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                                    Technically anyone can spin up an instance centered on whatever dark and inhumane topic. That's the reality of an open network. That's why defederation and whitelisting are such important tools as Fediverse grows. You don't actually want access to every last bit of information on the network.

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                                    Glad we agree then.

                                    Defed all intolerance.

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                                    • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      These people don't deserve validation.

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                                      It is not to validate them, it is to discredit them and provide red flags to would-be readers how dangerous their ideas are.

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                                      • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie#Modern_Internet_uses but actually https://www.joewrote.com/p/jfk-files-reveal-the-cia-role-in

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                                        A broken clock is right twice a day. And it is not like the Hungarian freedom fighters are mujahideen turned Taliban.

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                                          A big problem is too much politics, feels like politics is always brought up even in posts where it's not the topic of discussion. Just look at this post. Then if someone disagrees with your view they'll attack you and then they'll claim they "are on the right side". People have forgotten the golden rule.

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                                          It's very front of mind because these are the "interesting times" from the Chinese curse. Even people I've always known to say they don't pay attention to politics, can't watch the news it just makes me sad, etc. These people are talking politics every day. It's hard not to.

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