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Isn’t there an openjdk impl in like every major Linux distro repository?
And so I assume the same would be available for windows?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]yes, but that doesn't help if the software refuses to run on modern java
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Isn’t there an openjdk impl in like every major Linux distro repository?
And so I assume the same would be available for windows?
Some crappy software actively checks for a specific version, and you can't work around that.
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Some crappy software actively checks for a specific version, and you can't work around that.
Can you edit the byte code with a hex editor to change that check?
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Isn’t there an openjdk impl in like every major Linux distro repository?
And so I assume the same would be available for windows?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You assumed the switch needs to happen on the JDK. It's actually that we bought this software that depends on the old version with a perpetual license 18 years ago before every decided SaaS was god so we've got another 3 years left before ROI breaks even
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Please, Hammer... don't hurt em.
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What is it about Java where companies are hesitate to upgrade? Do the Java releases always bring breaking changes or are the companies that use Java have a culture of not prioritising tech upgrades?
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What is it about Java where companies are hesitate to upgrade? Do the Java releases always bring breaking changes or are the companies that use Java have a culture of not prioritising tech upgrades?
Java 8 to 21 + spring boot 2 to 3 brought the need to change a lot of dependencies, but often they were drop-in replacements. That was mostly Jakarta stuff. On the Spring side, a lot of things we used were deprecated, but that was not related to the Java version.
Did not take a huge amount of time to upgrade anyway. But maybe our systems weren't the most complex in the first place, a lot of our applications were pretty small.
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The company is using old proprietary software that breaks unless a specific java version is used. And don't want to upgrade/switch because it is too expensive.
And don't want to upgrade/switch because it is too expensive
Oh boy, you better have no employees or Oracle will make you pay for their existence:
https://www.oracle.com/in/a/ocom/docs/corporate/pricing/java-se-subscription-pricelist-5028356.pdf
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We can upgrade our coffee?!?
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And don't want to upgrade/switch because it is too expensive
Oh boy, you better have no employees or Oracle will make you pay for their existence:
https://www.oracle.com/in/a/ocom/docs/corporate/pricing/java-se-subscription-pricelist-5028356.pdf
You should really quiet down, how else are you going to hear anything?
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And don't want to upgrade/switch because it is too expensive
Oh boy, you better have no employees or Oracle will make you pay for their existence:
https://www.oracle.com/in/a/ocom/docs/corporate/pricing/java-se-subscription-pricelist-5028356.pdf
This is why you have a shell company JUST for your employees that need to use Oracle.
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What is it about Java where companies are hesitate to upgrade? Do the Java releases always bring breaking changes or are the companies that use Java have a culture of not prioritising tech upgrades?
I think many companies don’t actively maintain a large portion of their code base at all. So any amount of work, no matter how small, involves a “project” and “budget” and “approvals” to even assign somebody to the task of upgrading.
Then you have the testing and due diligence from whomever actually uses the thing.
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Can you edit the byte code with a hex editor to change that check?
Not if you want support from the vendor
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Y'all get Java 7?
Yeah in the final update of corporate "foundational security improvements", which was discussed in 2015.
Rumor has it that people aren't even allowed to put their passwords on sticky notes anymore as well!
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Can you edit the byte code with a hex editor to change that check?
Just build the OSS version of java-impl with the patched version number as expected by the shitty software.
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There's a Java version higher than 8?
That's so new! My stuff still requires version 1.8
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Wow I actually had a boss that wore these pants and wouldn't let me upgrade from a decade out-of-date visual studio C.
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What is it about Java where companies are hesitate to upgrade? Do the Java releases always bring breaking changes or are the companies that use Java have a culture of not prioritising tech upgrades?
I think it was 5 that decided to change everything on the parser level, and 11 that decided to change everything on the modules level.
Outside of those, Java has always been extremely backwards compatible. But last time I checked the ecosystem still didn't recover from that module semantics change.
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If you code it in VBA, you won’t have to worry about future version updates. #futureproof
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This is why you have a shell company JUST for your employees that need to use Oracle.
You mean for the employees that will write Java?
"Oracle" is usually about the DB, and that is paid by the core.
