How much data do you require before you accept something as "fact"?
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I read proper peer reviewed research. I'm usually not a specialist on the subject, so I am unable to properly process any data available.
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There are very few pieces of knowledge that I'd consider a fact. Rather, I tend to see those as the best current knowledge that might turn out to be false in the future. The fact of consciousness is among the only things in the entire universe that I see as absolutely being true. Pretty much anything else can just be an illusion.
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It's not so much the amount as the quality.
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Logical proof, is it reasonable and do peers agree. That could be a tiny amount of data or a large amount of data. It is specific to the "something".
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Facts are hard to confirm, bullshit tends to reveal itself.
So I have try not to cling to tightly to any given "fact", in case new evidence arrives.
That said, is can be surprisingly easy to navigate many parts of life simply by avoiding confirmed bullshit.
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That it also changes in time and is not absolute. And also, in many ways, that it does it does not exist (in the sense that the "centre" in one dimension might be correlated with extremes in another)
If the center, right, and left change over time how do you expect me to define "center" beyond that which is situated between left and right?
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There are very few pieces of knowledge that I'd consider a fact. Rather, I tend to see those as the best current knowledge that might turn out to be false in the future. The fact of consciousness is among the only things in the entire universe that I see as absolutely being true. Pretty much anything else can just be an illusion.
How do you know consciousness is "true" and not also an illusion created by the brain?
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Like with questions posted in a forum: at least, having little more to read than just its title
What elaboration do you require from the title to allow you to answer the question fully?
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Hume had something like the wise apportion their confidence to the evidence, and Carl Sagan's extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence can apply. So if those are true the quality and type of data is going to depend on the claim of fact (friend says they bought a dog vs a dragon), and the amount of evidence depends on the claim and your general standard of evidence. If you're lowering or raising your standards for a specific claim that's usually going to mean there's a bias for or against it.
tl;dr 42 pieces of data
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To my knowledge they have been criticized for being biased, but from what I can find their ratings don't differ drastically from other providers.
Their problem is that any news agency in the middle east is automatically "untrustworthy" with quotes like "they haven't been found to report false stories, but we still give them an untrustworthy rating".
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How so? Seemed reasonable enough for the few things I checked.
They're incredibly pro-Israel and anti-anything else in the middle east. Reputable information gets a lower reliability rating from them "just because".
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What elaboration do you require from the title to allow you to answer the question fully?
I would say, a good starting point would be a few examples of those so-called facts and their corresponding data.
Half-jokingly, I have little doubt I could find a lot of data demonstrating the earth is flat on flat-earth.org or whatever flat-earthers main website is called. But no matter the amount of data I would find there that still would not cut it as far as I'm concerned to accept their certainty as a factāIncidentally, I also just answered your first question: it's not just the quantity of data, it's also its trustworthiness that should matter
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If the center, right, and left change over time how do you expect me to define "center" beyond that which is situated between left and right?
I just showed you an example of where "centre" as commonly defined is not between left and right, but opposed by both..
I guess the point is, I think those definitions are deficient, and using them as a guide to understanding what is good or true is probably a flawed methodology. It's kind of reminiscent of Fox News' old "fair and balanced" slogan (which never was, but also just missed the point of what journalism is supposed to be about, which is truth).
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How do you know consciousness is "true" and not also an illusion created by the brain?
Because consciousness is where illusions appear. The unconscious mind canāt experience illusions.
Iām using Thomas Nagelās definition of consciousness: the fact of experience - that it feels like something to be from a subjective point of view.
Even if weāre living in a simulation and literally everything is fake, what remains undeniable is that it feels like something to be simulated. Iād argue that this is the only thing in the entire universe that cannot be an illusion.
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Because consciousness is where illusions appear. The unconscious mind canāt experience illusions.
Iām using Thomas Nagelās definition of consciousness: the fact of experience - that it feels like something to be from a subjective point of view.
Even if weāre living in a simulation and literally everything is fake, what remains undeniable is that it feels like something to be simulated. Iād argue that this is the only thing in the entire universe that cannot be an illusion.
The unconscious mind canāt experience illusions.
How do humans dream?
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I just showed you an example of where "centre" as commonly defined is not between left and right, but opposed by both..
I guess the point is, I think those definitions are deficient, and using them as a guide to understanding what is good or true is probably a flawed methodology. It's kind of reminiscent of Fox News' old "fair and balanced" slogan (which never was, but also just missed the point of what journalism is supposed to be about, which is truth).
I just showed you an example of where ācentreā as commonly defined is not between left and right, but opposed by bothā¦
The plural of anecdote is not data.
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I would say, a good starting point would be a few examples of those so-called facts and their corresponding data.
Half-jokingly, I have little doubt I could find a lot of data demonstrating the earth is flat on flat-earth.org or whatever flat-earthers main website is called. But no matter the amount of data I would find there that still would not cut it as far as I'm concerned to accept their certainty as a factāIncidentally, I also just answered your first question: it's not just the quantity of data, it's also its trustworthiness that should matter
I keep hearing "it isn't the quantity..." and I do not understand why it isn't seen as just as important as trustworthiness of source because even the best source needs a high amount of data to back up a claim.
On the topic of flat earthers, did you ever see the video of the guy who tried to demonstrate the earth was flat and proved it was round? The look on his face was priceless. haha
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Their problem is that any news agency in the middle east is automatically "untrustworthy" with quotes like "they haven't been found to report false stories, but we still give them an untrustworthy rating".
Do you have examples of reputable sources from the middle east that have an unfair rating?
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Itās not the amount of evidence, itās the quality of it.
Quality evidence has an inherent quantity wouldn't you say?
No? I don't care if the whole world is wrong, some evidence is strong enough to convince me forever, even if it's subjective
Quality is all that matters. One incontrovertible fact I can poke and prod myself means more than millions of subjective accounts. Or even all of science - I'll rearrange my entire model around a new fact if it's compelling enough
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No? I don't care if the whole world is wrong, some evidence is strong enough to convince me forever, even if it's subjective
Quality is all that matters. One incontrovertible fact I can poke and prod myself means more than millions of subjective accounts. Or even all of science - I'll rearrange my entire model around a new fact if it's compelling enough
One quality study is enough to convince you of something, even if it has never been reproduced or reviewed?
