US ambassador to Israel says US no longer pursuing goal of independent Palestinian state
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Yes and Eastern civilizations would do it too if they had the power. This is a human problem, not just a western problem.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Maybe, but the theft of indigenous lands is a continuum from the western European empires of yore to what's on the news today, so what I'm talking about is a concrete reality that is unfolding (yet again) right in front of us, while you're talking about a probability that things might be the same if, if, if...
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You basically admit that israel need american politicians to send thrm money and protect them diplomatically for any consequences. It's a win win for israel and the politicians.
Oh, no, they don't NEED the money, they WANT the money.
Big difference.Same as you or I would if we had our own lobbying firm.
I should say too... this is not unique to Israel. The American Military Industrial Complex is based on "Please give us lucrative contracts you don't need so we can spend money in red state communities that vote for you."
This is how we get billion dollar contracts for things we don't need, but can't be killed because of donations to the politicians.
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Why am I skirting any rule? Those like you include you. I've even said explicitly on your quote.
You were fooled and you're trying to defend it as some form of moral superiority. You don't care about Gaza, you care more about not admitting you were wrong.
Go ahead and report me, just be careful to not fall from your high horse.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I've reported you, but not "you" in particular, but those like you in general
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Maybe, but the theft of indigenous lands is a continuum from the western European empires of yore to what's on the news today, so what I'm talking about is a concrete reality that is unfolding (yet again) right in front of us, while you're talking about a probability that things might be the same if, if, if...
So your argument is that it isn't a human thing and easterners are superior to westerners? Would that be a race thing?
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Ok sorry for misreading you.
Why biden should protect a state occupying palestinian for 57 years? Why do you agree with biden being complicit?
Biden support israel for the usa imperialism and ideology
Because following the holocaust the world decided that everyone owed the Jewish people a homeland and the US was a key player in a) ending the holocaust and b) making Israel happen.
No US President is going to turn their back on that. Biden did not do anything different than every other president in the past 70 years.
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I don't see an acceleration. Israel is trying to kill the most number of palestinians while the united snake send billions to israel
For one, look at the article headline.
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For one, look at the article headline.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]For one stop, believing the USA without thinking before
The USA been voted no to UN resolutions to recognize a Palestinian independent state since 1974.
I prefer an honest scum who say we oppose a two state solution or any other type of solution than a hypocrite scum who claim to want one
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Could Israel flatten all of Gaza with sniper bullets?
Have you seen any actual combat footage from Gaza which is not American F35 planes dropping 2000 pound bombs on tents? There is good reason Israel does not dare to do anything except bomb from the sky.
Love that his argument keeps going between Biden was just old and raised that way, he couldn't do anything since it was established usa policy, and it's just usa doing proxy war against Iran so of course they need to support the genocide.
All to keep Bidens image clean.
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Because following the holocaust the world decided that everyone owed the Jewish people a homeland and the US was a key player in a) ending the holocaust and b) making Israel happen.
No US President is going to turn their back on that. Biden did not do anything different than every other president in the past 70 years.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Palestinians has nothing to do the holocaust. Actually 13k Palestinians volunteered to fight nazi Germany. Maybe the united state should has offer some land to zionists to create it's state .
No US President is going to turn their back on that. Biden did not do anything different than every other president in the past 70 years.
I don't give a damn, every single president who defended israeli occupation is a war criminal and should be held accountable
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Palestinians has nothing to do the holocaust. Actually 13k Palestinians volunteered to fight nazi Germany. Maybe the united state should has offer some land to zionists to create it's state .
No US President is going to turn their back on that. Biden did not do anything different than every other president in the past 70 years.
I don't give a damn, every single president who defended israeli occupation is a war criminal and should be held accountable
I never said they did, they didn't enter into the equation at all at the time. The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine.
Things could have gone a lot differently otherwise, very fun speculative novel based on the idea of giving them Sitka, Alaska instead:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yiddish_Policemen's_Union
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You're right, it would have, but the reality was Trump or Harris. It was still an extremely easy decision, but it would have been better if the less shitty candidate was even less shitty.
If Democrats can't handle the lowest bar in thr world, that of being against genocide, then the party doesn't deserve to exist full stop. We need a new party, the Dems won't save us from the next Trump either.
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I never said they did, they didn't enter into the equation at all at the time. The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine.
Things could have gone a lot differently otherwise, very fun speculative novel based on the idea of giving them Sitka, Alaska instead:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yiddish_Policemen's_Union
The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine
Most of the world didn't decide this and more importanly the local population refused
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Maybe, but the theft of indigenous lands is a continuum from the western European empires of yore to what's on the news today, so what I'm talking about is a concrete reality that is unfolding (yet again) right in front of us, while you're talking about a probability that things might be the same if, if, if...
How is "theft of indigenous" lands a western thing? I cant think of a single region that didnt seek to acquire more territory.
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The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine
Most of the world didn't decide this and more importanly the local population refused
At that point, following the holocaust, it didn't matter what the locals wanted, it was imposed on them regardless.
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At that point, following the holocaust, it didn't matter what the locals wanted, it was imposed on them regardless.
So you agree that the support for Israel since the beginning was wrong right?
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The zionists won. It doesn't need reminding.
A movement tried to make Palestine a relevant political issue for the electorate. It got stomped out. I don't get this sentiment to keep stomping.
A movement tried to make Palestine a relevant political issue for the electorate. It got stomped out.
No, it succeeded in its goal - making sure the fascist won.
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Look, I was the first person in threads to call these people out back in February. And March... But it's June. This shit accomplishes nothing now beyond creating more unnecessary division.
I don't even disagree, it's just not productive to constantly harp on this when we've all heard it a million times
I don’t even disagree, it’s just not productive to constantly harp on this when we’ve all heard it a million times
Man, there are people who still believe that helping fascism win was a good idea. Look in this very comment thread, where people are openly extolling the virtues of having Trump win from a 'leftist' standpoint, and teaching those damn dirty SHITLIBS a lesson.
As long as those opinions remain widespread on here, it remains necessary to highlight just how morally repugnant they are.
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So you agree that the support for Israel since the beginning was wrong right?
Support for Israel was not. Supporting Israel at the expense of any other people was.
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Support for Israel was not. Supporting Israel at the expense of any other people was.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Supporting Israel at the expense of any other people was.
Bro that's the whole history of israel. Israel should have zero protection against anybody until they go back to pre 67 territory
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"but one of them will explicitly make it worse"
Biden was making it worse for over a fucking year. Your comic is not clever or informative or even truthful, sorry. I voted for Harris, but I cannot control how others vote. If democrats want votes, they should actually try to get them. Democrats running on "other guy will make it worstester!!!!" while still making things worse themselves is a losing strategy and yet here you are defending it. That's truly a stick-in-spokes maneuver.
the contentious point has never been that democrats should have run a better campaign. on that we all agree. the relevant issue has always been that not voting democrat would result in a worse outcome.
surprise surprise. it did.
