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US ambassador to Israel says US no longer pursuing goal of independent Palestinian state

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  • I [email protected]

    Why I don't get is why the democrats ran a chicken race with democracy for a widely despised policy when they knew the stakes. We can call the electorate morons all day and even have point, but they are supposed to be smart.

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    that’s absolutely true too! there are multiple parties who share the responsibility… as always, the world is complex and rarely are things black and white

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    • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

      Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’

      Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, has said that the US is no longer pursuing the goal of an independent Palestinian state, marking what analysts describe as the most explicit abandonment yet of a cornerstone of US Middle East diplomacy.

      Asked during an interview with Bloomberg News if a Palestinian state remains a goal of US policy, he replied: “I don’t think so.”

      The former Arkansas governor chosen by Donald Trump as his envoy to Israel went further by suggesting that any future Palestinian entity could be carved out of “a Muslim country” rather than requiring Israel to cede territory.

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      Americans: “We are still trash.”

      World: “We know.”

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      • 3 [email protected]

        Israel is done. It'll take a few years more, but Trump abandoned Israel and the world is turning its back. Palestine will be free, and only then you also will be free.

        Until then, you'll keep bouncing back between openly fascist and polite fascist like the good little wage slave that you are.

        This was Biden's genocide, you can never take that away from him.

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        Biden did not order the attacks, stop spreading bullshit. This is solely on Israel.

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        • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

          Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’

          Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, has said that the US is no longer pursuing the goal of an independent Palestinian state, marking what analysts describe as the most explicit abandonment yet of a cornerstone of US Middle East diplomacy.

          Asked during an interview with Bloomberg News if a Palestinian state remains a goal of US policy, he replied: “I don’t think so.”

          The former Arkansas governor chosen by Donald Trump as his envoy to Israel went further by suggesting that any future Palestinian entity could be carved out of “a Muslim country” rather than requiring Israel to cede territory.

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          #53

          From the river to the sea, fuck Israel.

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          • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

            Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’

            Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, has said that the US is no longer pursuing the goal of an independent Palestinian state, marking what analysts describe as the most explicit abandonment yet of a cornerstone of US Middle East diplomacy.

            Asked during an interview with Bloomberg News if a Palestinian state remains a goal of US policy, he replied: “I don’t think so.”

            The former Arkansas governor chosen by Donald Trump as his envoy to Israel went further by suggesting that any future Palestinian entity could be carved out of “a Muslim country” rather than requiring Israel to cede territory.

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            Why treat people with dignity when you can genocide them and grab all that real estate?

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              Oh boy you rustled some jimmies. Idk that I've seen a single comment where every response was down voted for being shitty takes.

              I'm sure all of those third party and non voters are jerking off all over themselves for saving Palestine and ending the genocide through Donald Trump.

              Hey, at least they've got their pedestals to look down on us from.

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              Oh boy you rustled some jimmies.

              That might be an understatement lol.
              I'm still getting comments, threats, and suggestions to commit suicide on this post, and other comments and posts I've made going back at least a year.

              They're so mad they're been browsing my comment history to find more things to get pissed off about lol.
              I love pissing off fascists and all the attention let's me know I'm on the right track.

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                Why treat people with dignity when you can genocide them and grab all that real estate?

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                I vote this as the default slogan for all Western Civ history classes

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                • A [email protected]

                  You got worse than what you were protesting. Good job. Huge success!

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                  All this time Kang was the right choice! Down with Kronos!!!

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                    Oh boy you rustled some jimmies. Idk that I've seen a single comment where every response was down voted for being shitty takes.

                    I'm sure all of those third party and non voters are jerking off all over themselves for saving Palestine and ending the genocide through Donald Trump.

                    Hey, at least they've got their pedestals to look down on us from.

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                    I doubt that anyone ever claimed Trump would end the genocide on Palestinians from outside a troll farm in St. Petersburg.

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                      Ok, so assume all things equal, everything happens the same in Gaza... Trump is still significantly worse in every other facet. So yea, all third party voters and non voters are fucking moronic Trump supporters. A bunch of ignorant fuckwits that think that they made a difference by standing up against the establishment. Congrats, we got Trump.

                      There's only so many ways to say that there were two outcomes last November, and everyone knew that. If y'all can't wrap your head around that reality 6 months later, then that says everything about your ability to reason.

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                      The main argument was never "Trump is no worse than Harris". To argue against this is fighting windmills.

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                        Oh boy you rustled some jimmies.

                        That might be an understatement lol.
                        I'm still getting comments, threats, and suggestions to commit suicide on this post, and other comments and posts I've made going back at least a year.

                        They're so mad they're been browsing my comment history to find more things to get pissed off about lol.
                        I love pissing off fascists and all the attention let's me know I'm on the right track.

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                        Same. I've had cancer wished on me, suicide, and a few other things. Like you said, it's solidly let me know the kind of people that I'm criticizing.

                        Someone lost a friend in Lebanon, and that's sad. I'm sure if they were still here, they'd be stoked that their friend effectively supported Donald Trump to help out though.

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                          I doubt that anyone ever claimed Trump would end the genocide on Palestinians from outside a troll farm in St. Petersburg.

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                          Some of them I'm sure thought it, but definitely a minority. It's the fact that Gaza was used as a means to target Harris, and against all evidence suggesting it would be the same or worse, didn't do the same to condemn Trump.

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                            The main argument was never "Trump is no worse than Harris". To argue against this is fighting windmills.

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                            The argument has always been, of the two candidates, one of which will win, which is less bad? People that voted third party or didn't vote decided that Trump is less bad.

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                              I doubt that anyone ever claimed Trump would end the genocide on Palestinians from outside a troll farm in St. Petersburg.

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                              Plenty of people in Michigan did.

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                              • C [email protected]

                                Thank God we saved Palestine from Biden, right protest voters?
                                Right?

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                                The majority of white women voted for Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024.

                                "White women are still voting for the Republican candidate

                                Although women as a whole have historically voted for Democrats, white women have not. Instead, over the last 72 years, a plurality of white women have voted for the Democratic candidate only twice, in 1964 and 1996."

                                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/election-trump-harris-women-voters

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                                • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                  Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’

                                  Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, has said that the US is no longer pursuing the goal of an independent Palestinian state, marking what analysts describe as the most explicit abandonment yet of a cornerstone of US Middle East diplomacy.

                                  Asked during an interview with Bloomberg News if a Palestinian state remains a goal of US policy, he replied: “I don’t think so.”

                                  The former Arkansas governor chosen by Donald Trump as his envoy to Israel went further by suggesting that any future Palestinian entity could be carved out of “a Muslim country” rather than requiring Israel to cede territory.

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                                  So much to unpack here.

                                  First of all, when asked, he said "I don't think so." He should have a definitive answer to that question, not some weasely equivocation.

                                  The fact that we aren't supporting a PLACE for them to live as an independent nation, signals that America has embraced the genocide option.

                                  This is entirely about developing a Jewish Dubai, so they don't have to spend their money with Muslims. HitlerPig's Spiritual Advisor has already come out to say that Christians won't be able to enter heaven unless they make a pilgrimage to Israel, the way Muslims make their pilgrimage to Mecca. Of course, for the MAGA Nazis, it's not about spiritual fulfillment, it's about making Christians spend their money in their hotels and restaurants.

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                                    Thank God we saved Palestine from Biden, right protest voters?
                                    Right?

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                                    #66

                                    Look, I was the first person in threads to call these people out back in February. And March... But it's June. This shit accomplishes nothing now beyond creating more unnecessary division.

                                    I don't even disagree, it's just not productive to constantly harp on this when we've all heard it a million times

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                                      I doubt that anyone ever claimed Trump would end the genocide on Palestinians from outside a troll farm in St. Petersburg.

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                                      People on this very site did, absolutely, and some of them were definitely Americans

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        As a lib I am deeply ashamed that we have missed a historic opportunity of electing a black woman to unquestioningly, unequivocally and fully support the destruction of Palestine all the while lying about "working round the clock to stop the Israel-Hamas war".

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                                        Well, you got a orange man who wants to accelerate the destruction, ethnically cleanse the population and build a hotel on the ashes. At least he's too dumb to lie about it. Yay?

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                                          I vote this as the default slogan for all Western Civ history classes

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                                          Yes and Eastern civilizations would do it too if they had the power. This is a human problem, not just a western problem.

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