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  • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    It would be such a Dresden type loophole to use that with the cliche of "home is wherever you are", and have someone believe that strongly enough to make the other person a living vampire repellent.

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    Upon further consideration and two drinks, I deand Hollywood use this as the twist ending to give Blade the love interest they're going to force in no matter what in the reboot.

    Then in the sequel he sells out and gets a fancy new Batcave Crypt(?) funeded by some asshole who turns out to be the villain.

    And Blade's conviction falters and it breaks her protection just long enough to get her tragically killed, setting up therevenge plot for the third movie.

    God wqhy am I not a screenwriter. It's not good, but it would sell.

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    • darkassassin07@lemmy.caD [email protected]

      Participated in democracy? Devoured by vampires, lmao

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      A fitting end

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        I think the vampire physically could enter because the warrant is basically allowing them to enter a space they otherwise would need express permission from the person that dwells there. I haven't known a cop otherwise to serve the warrant and then just stand awkwardly waiting for permission to enter afterwards. If we are to believe that vampires exist in this context and follow "traditional" rules, you best believe a vampire could be in any given profession, especially because night work is more prevalent than ever. There would certainly be a vampire cop who works at night and takes advantage of the way warrants work.

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        Vampires are older than property law, I think the power that keeps them out comes from physically dwelling in the place. As long as they're still living there, regardless of what a judge decided, it's their home as far as a vampire is concerned. Otherwise they could just ask each other for permission to enter someone else's house. I'm trying to remember if this came up in Buffy...

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        • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          Upon further consideration and two drinks, I deand Hollywood use this as the twist ending to give Blade the love interest they're going to force in no matter what in the reboot.

          Then in the sequel he sells out and gets a fancy new Batcave Crypt(?) funeded by some asshole who turns out to be the villain.

          And Blade's conviction falters and it breaks her protection just long enough to get her tragically killed, setting up therevenge plot for the third movie.

          God wqhy am I not a screenwriter. It's not good, but it would sell.

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          Okay so then in Blade 3 its bsically Blade goign John Wick on some vampires until he finds out the vamp who killed his love is now part of a cult tying to smmon a demon.Then at the climax of the movie he has to choose betoween getting his revenge and stopping the summoning. and Blade is too driven by fury and he goes for revenge. So cliffhanger ending, the demon pops out of a portal. folloed by...

          JOHN CONSTANTINE!

          THAT'S RIGHT BIGHTCHES, BLADE 4 IS A BACKDOOR MARVEL/DC CROSSOVER!

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            Legally? Yes. Physically? No.

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              So what I'm gathering here is that you do indeed have vampires inside

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              Nope, absolutely no vampires here, definitely none at all, no siree. No vmpires in this house.

              /blinks franticly at the camera

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                In this same vein, if a vamp-cop's partner entered the home, then invited the vamp-cop in, would the vamp-cop be able to enter then?

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                Only the people living there can invite a vampire in.

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                  I think the vampire physically could enter because the warrant is basically allowing them to enter a space they otherwise would need express permission from the person that dwells there. I haven't known a cop otherwise to serve the warrant and then just stand awkwardly waiting for permission to enter afterwards. If we are to believe that vampires exist in this context and follow "traditional" rules, you best believe a vampire could be in any given profession, especially because night work is more prevalent than ever. There would certainly be a vampire cop who works at night and takes advantage of the way warrants work.

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                  I think hearth magic doesn't work that way. When you live somewhere and set up a presence, it becomes your domain.
                  A warrant doesn't take that away from you. You need permission to travel safely into someone's domain.

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                  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                    Bram Stoker had a different take

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                    Writers need to be interpreted, because it's unlikely that they actually understand what they wrote. Therefore, when employing a novel to address a problem, my interpretation is probably more important than the original work.

                    I took them some of the most elaborate passages in their own writings, and asked what was the meaning of them - thinking that they would teach me something. Will you believe me? I am almost ashamed to speak of this, but still I must say that there is hardly a person present who would not have talked better about their poetry than they did themselves. That showed me in an instant that not by wisdom do poets write poetry, but by a sort of genius and inspiration; they are like diviners or soothsayers who also say many fine things, but do not understand the meaning of them.

                    It's not even clear that Bram Stoker had a good understanding of the word "Dracula": https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2467&v=BvFwqVzEsfw&feature=youtu.be

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                      You know, maybe Vimes had a point.

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                        Y'all this one is simple.

                        Legally, yes.

                        Physically (for supernatural reasons), no.

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                        This is the answer I choose to accept.

                        “Can I enter your home to arrest you?”

                        “I don’t know officer squints eyes ..can you?”

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                          He can come in. I eat garlic regularly 😆

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                            Writers need to be interpreted, because it's unlikely that they actually understand what they wrote. Therefore, when employing a novel to address a problem, my interpretation is probably more important than the original work.

                            I took them some of the most elaborate passages in their own writings, and asked what was the meaning of them - thinking that they would teach me something. Will you believe me? I am almost ashamed to speak of this, but still I must say that there is hardly a person present who would not have talked better about their poetry than they did themselves. That showed me in an instant that not by wisdom do poets write poetry, but by a sort of genius and inspiration; they are like diviners or soothsayers who also say many fine things, but do not understand the meaning of them.

                            It's not even clear that Bram Stoker had a good understanding of the word "Dracula": https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2467&v=BvFwqVzEsfw&feature=youtu.be

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                            That's genuinely quite interesting, thank you! 🤩🤓

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                            • D [email protected]

                              Well by that logic, if you found a vampire's lair /tomb while they slept, and then three a tent over it, wouldn't that cause them to die?

                              I'm def of the opinion its all about entering a building (not necessarily about being in one).

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                              Wait but if building a tent around it doesn't kill them, which I agree with, it means that they would be allowed in if the domicile was formed around them without their knowing.

                              So by that logic, do Vampires get squatters rights?

                              If they get into a domicile not knowing there is an owner, then the owner arrives, are they ejected or are they allowed to stay? What if you build your house on top of the entrance to their tomb? Are they forced to ask permission to leave their tomb and thus enter your domicile?

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                              • P [email protected]

                                Vampires are older than property law, I think the power that keeps them out comes from physically dwelling in the place. As long as they're still living there, regardless of what a judge decided, it's their home as far as a vampire is concerned. Otherwise they could just ask each other for permission to enter someone else's house. I'm trying to remember if this came up in Buffy...

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                                What if they are renting?

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                                  Y'all this one is simple.

                                  Legally, yes.

                                  Physically (for supernatural reasons), no.

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                                  What if they're serving an eviction notice and it's no longer your home?

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                                    A vampire police officer would have to abide by both rules. They would need a warrant and an invite. A warrant is legal permission, but not an invite.

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                                    • filtoid@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

                                      What if they're serving an eviction notice and it's no longer your home?

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                                      Then you don't have the authority to grant them entrance

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        A vampire police officer would have to abide by both rules. They would need a warrant and an invite. A warrant is legal permission, but not an invite.

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                                        No they wouldn’t tbh

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                                        • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                                          What if they are renting?

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                                          It is still YOUR house bc you live and sleep and eat there

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