80 Teslas damaged at Hamilton dealership, largest car vandalism reported in Canada against the U.S. company | CBC News
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A strawman, Republicans claimed election fraud (2 + 2 = 5), Democrats claimed voter suppression disproportionately affects them (2 + 2 = 4). What do you think 2 + 2 = ?
You think that violent insurrection against our country by storming the capitol is the same as vandalizing a few cars? How long do you think the sentences should be for each crime? I'd say one is 100x the sentence of the other.
Firebombing car dealerships, charging stations, and violent attacks against people who drive Teslas isn't "vandalization" . 90,000,000 eligible voters didnt vote by choice. They are vocal on why they didn't vote and it's not voter suppression. Keep lying to yourself if you want or just go read about the reasons. It's not a secret.
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So the same goes if the Tesla is carrying a family in it and some fella goes and brake checks it? Or runs it off the road?
That's not vandalism. That's like murder.
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That's not vandalism. That's like murder.
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Firebombing car dealerships, charging stations, and violent attacks against people who drive Teslas isn't "vandalization" . 90,000,000 eligible voters didnt vote by choice. They are vocal on why they didn't vote and it's not voter suppression. Keep lying to yourself if you want or just go read about the reasons. It's not a secret.
There are many reasons for an election win or loss. But the big one we care about in 2024 was widespread purging. It's quasilegal, there's evidence of it, it's cheating, and it suppresses Democrat votes much more.
There were 7 billion people who didn't immigrate into the US and thus didn't vote, they were very clear as to why they didn't come to America. That's just as relevant as your 90 million, actually more because it's 100x the people! Don't get me started on extraterrestrials we didn't find, there could be trillions. It was clear the reasons we didn't fund SETI.
"Vandalizing isn't vandalizing". You made no argument here.
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Okay cool. Cause that where this is headed. I’ve seen I videos of it. I’m afraid it’s only a matter of time until some fuckstick that thinks he’s helping the cause and goes too far.
This is the point I’m trying to make.
Wow. will i hope you are very wrong about that prophecy. Im all for insurance paying up but unless the car has nazi flags I see no point of going that hard.
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If the bots and toxicity haven't killed it, I don't know what we could even do at this point.
Ugh you are correct, I just wish there was a way to send a virus or something towards the bots. There has to be a way to dismantle them permanently.
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There are many reasons for an election win or loss. But the big one we care about in 2024 was widespread purging. It's quasilegal, there's evidence of it, it's cheating, and it suppresses Democrat votes much more.
There were 7 billion people who didn't immigrate into the US and thus didn't vote, they were very clear as to why they didn't come to America. That's just as relevant as your 90 million, actually more because it's 100x the people! Don't get me started on extraterrestrials we didn't find, there could be trillions. It was clear the reasons we didn't fund SETI.
"Vandalizing isn't vandalizing". You made no argument here.
"Purging" you mean only allowing eligible voters to vote? It's "quasilegal"? No each state is responsible to maintain updated and correct voter roles. There is nothing controversial about it. You lost the election. People didn't want to vote and they openly spoke about why they didn't. Most didn't like either candidate and didn't want to support either party. You lost the election and no one cheated just like the republicans in 2020.
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"Purging" you mean only allowing eligible voters to vote? It's "quasilegal"? No each state is responsible to maintain updated and correct voter roles. There is nothing controversial about it. You lost the election. People didn't want to vote and they openly spoke about why they didn't. Most didn't like either candidate and didn't want to support either party. You lost the election and no one cheated just like the republicans in 2020.
One such review of evidence of what I'm saying that contradicts your argument:
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
Too many logical fallacies in your comment to reply without losing your attention span but I'll try.
Eligible voters were removed, the link proves it. Quasilegal because it's a gray area in the law, here's litigation against the practice but only in some states and inconsistently, hence "quasi": https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/mass-purges-are-new-voter-suppression. Not controversial: a strange lie, of course it's controversial, most people don't believe your argument. People didn't want to vote for Trump in China/India, that is more relevant than your argument as I've said before you circled back. No one cheated: false, again.
If that evidence is unconvincing, what evidence would you need to see to convince you? Would any evidence convinced you or do you choose to believe without caring about reality?
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One such review of evidence of what I'm saying that contradicts your argument:
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
Too many logical fallacies in your comment to reply without losing your attention span but I'll try.
Eligible voters were removed, the link proves it. Quasilegal because it's a gray area in the law, here's litigation against the practice but only in some states and inconsistently, hence "quasi": https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/mass-purges-are-new-voter-suppression. Not controversial: a strange lie, of course it's controversial, most people don't believe your argument. People didn't want to vote for Trump in China/India, that is more relevant than your argument as I've said before you circled back. No one cheated: false, again.
If that evidence is unconvincing, what evidence would you need to see to convince you? Would any evidence convinced you or do you choose to believe without caring about reality?
This doesn't prove anything. As a voter you have responsibilities to keep your information current, to vote at the correct location, if voting by mail it is your responsibility to fill the paperwork out correctly, to send it by the deadline, and to sign it. Democrats lost all 8 swing states, states run by Democrat and Republican administrations. If you need to tell yourself you secretly won then you do that just like the Repubs of 2020. You lost move on.
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This doesn't prove anything. As a voter you have responsibilities to keep your information current, to vote at the correct location, if voting by mail it is your responsibility to fill the paperwork out correctly, to send it by the deadline, and to sign it. Democrats lost all 8 swing states, states run by Democrat and Republican administrations. If you need to tell yourself you secretly won then you do that just like the Repubs of 2020. You lost move on.
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What evidence would you need to see to convince you? Would any evidence convinced you or do you choose to believe without caring about reality?
If you read the article it states information was not updated, or information was submitted last minute, people didn't fill out their info correctly, and wasn't mailed by deadline. Look i understand you need to believe you secretly won and the other side cheated. It's cool you just go with that.
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If you read the article it states information was not updated, or information was submitted last minute, people didn't fill out their info correctly, and wasn't mailed by deadline. Look i understand you need to believe you secretly won and the other side cheated. It's cool you just go with that.
That is pants on fire false. In many cases ballots were rejected for no reason and had to be recast. Democrats and especially Black people were affected disproportionately, why do you think that is only the case in 2024? There is evidence of this being instructed to GOP party leaders as a strategy. And even if true, do you think it's "fair" to make an all black community stand in line for 3 hours to vote because you removed mail in ballots? Does this not meet the definition of "chest"?
Look I understand you need to believe you won and your side didn't cheat. It’s cool, you just go with that.
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I am of the opinion that no one should be vandalizing property that they don't own themselves. Protest, sure (following whatever laws Canada has in place for that), don't buy a Tesla, sure, encourage everyone you've ever met not to buy one, fine, but please respect the right of people who don't want their stuff vandalized.
Also, while dealerships have insurance, doing this just makes the insurance go up for everyone. But that's not my point. People shouldn't vandalize the property of others because they really, really, really x5, don't like Elon.
I'm not an Elon or Trump apologist, I'm just someone fighting on the side of civilized behavior.
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That is pants on fire false. In many cases ballots were rejected for no reason and had to be recast. Democrats and especially Black people were affected disproportionately, why do you think that is only the case in 2024? There is evidence of this being instructed to GOP party leaders as a strategy. And even if true, do you think it's "fair" to make an all black community stand in line for 3 hours to vote because you removed mail in ballots? Does this not meet the definition of "chest"?
Look I understand you need to believe you won and your side didn't cheat. It’s cool, you just go with that.
First the question was did Republicans cheat to win the 2024 election? That was your claim not what is fair. If you ask why voters didnt vote they will tell you themselves that they did not want to, not that they couldn't. Nothing disputes those facts.
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First the question was did Republicans cheat to win the 2024 election? That was your claim not what is fair. If you ask why voters didnt vote they will tell you themselves that they did not want to, not that they couldn't. Nothing disputes those facts.
You win the argument. I concede that 2 plus 2 indeed equals 5. By rejecting any evidence, not actually refuting my points and making up your own logic, your argument is identical to 1+1=3, therefore proving 2+2=5, which is what my first question was. Up is down, you win the argument, and Republicans didn't cheat. I applaud your bliss and ignorance, sir.
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You win the argument. I concede that 2 plus 2 indeed equals 5. By rejecting any evidence, not actually refuting my points and making up your own logic, your argument is identical to 1+1=3, therefore proving 2+2=5, which is what my first question was. Up is down, you win the argument, and Republicans didn't cheat. I applaud your bliss and ignorance, sir.
I hope you take this opportunity to seek the mental health counseling\treatment you so desperately need. Perhaps you can share all your mathematical equations with them. Good day to you sir.
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I hope you take this opportunity to seek the mental health counseling\treatment you so desperately need. Perhaps you can share all your mathematical equations with them. Good day to you sir.
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It's far more childish to be unable to stick to principles. Children will punch another child for a cookie.... adults know not to, and ones that punch people for cookies are held in contempt by society.
Your stance would be the former: do whatever is easy.
The other commentator is right. Its easy to tell someone "just sell your car and walk" or whatever when you are not directly affected by the change you are asking someone else to make. Take a second and think of all the injustices in the world YOU are indirectly, involuntarily complicit in and what it might mean to be targeted for that reason. It is for this we offer charity to others, and therein is a clear line between wearing a nazi pin as a symbol and driving a Tesla, literally an appliance.
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The other commentator is right. Its easy to tell someone "just sell your car and walk" or whatever when you are not directly affected by the change you are asking someone else to make. Take a second and think of all the injustices in the world YOU are indirectly, involuntarily complicit in and what it might mean to be targeted for that reason. It is for this we offer charity to others, and therein is a clear line between wearing a nazi pin as a symbol and driving a Tesla, literally an appliance.
The right thing to do is often not easy.
Let me guess, you'd be OK with turning in a person hiding migrants, because it's easier to do that?
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