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Canadians overwhelmingly oppose becoming 51st U.S. state: poll

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    Can we stop posting this headline? Again and again and again?

    It's not news.

    If a sizable portion of the population did want to do something stupid, that'd be news.

    This is... It's not even propaganda. It's just a waste of our limited time and emotional capacity for idiocy.

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      Reminder that a few states could do the funniest thing possible and try to secede.

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        I have long said that even in a Utopia you would have people unhappy about the way things were.

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        This is the premise that makes Iain M Banks' Culture series of novels so compelling.

        Even though it is a massive interstellar Type2 society that is "fully automated luxury communism" many people are going to be problematic, angsty, and childish. The result is an always interesting plot.

        A more thorough exploration of someone living in a relative utopia but being a long streak of misery by nature is Delaney's novel Triton. Main character is a jerk and you get to explore why, while extremely cool things are happening all around.

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          Reminder that a few states could do the funniest thing possible and try to secede.

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          Except the people who would secede have control over the government. They want power more than anything else so they are going to force the entire country to be Jesusland.

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            Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

            So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots.

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            It’s needs to be 100% of Canadians. Those who don’t oppose us becoming the U.S. aren’t Canadian, and can kindly GTFO of this amazing country.

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              No shit, no one wants this. Why would we??

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                Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

                So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots.

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                20% Russian bots/Elon bots

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                  Can we stop posting this headline? Again and again and again?

                  It's not news.

                  If a sizable portion of the population did want to do something stupid, that'd be news.

                  This is... It's not even propaganda. It's just a waste of our limited time and emotional capacity for idiocy.

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                  It made me lol, and not in a good way: why would there even be a poll?

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                    This is the premise that makes Iain M Banks' Culture series of novels so compelling.

                    Even though it is a massive interstellar Type2 society that is "fully automated luxury communism" many people are going to be problematic, angsty, and childish. The result is an always interesting plot.

                    A more thorough exploration of someone living in a relative utopia but being a long streak of misery by nature is Delaney's novel Triton. Main character is a jerk and you get to explore why, while extremely cool things are happening all around.

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                    I love that about the Culture novels: they are socially coherent. Banks is very keen on telling us about the psychology of this utopian society.

                    I once tried some Delaney but dropped it as psychedelic hippie scifi. I hope I wasn't unjust in doing that, but afair it was from that time. Maybe it even was Triton. It was all confusion ("tripping") and exploring a completely desire-based, erm, exploration.

                    Recently I read (and barely managed to finish) Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination, which seems to fit into a similar category (Beatnik scifi?). It had way too many shortcomings, plus it was an old translation that only managed to make the latent racism/sexism more prominent. But it was also very inventive and captivating.

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                      I can believe it, I know one of them. They're the incel, manosphere idiots, the 4chan, never trust the government, flat earther alien conspiracy theorists who think they're smarter than everyone else because the mainstream media always lies and they get their news from - that 'altmedia' you might see and think who the fuck is watching this shit??! YouTube channel etc. It's them.

                      That stuff is spreading into the mainstream too. A young person in my family recently told me they don't believe in the moon landing. Why? It doesn't seem like that technology could exist back then. Lol.

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                      Yeah not only in the USA for sure. Here in Europe too. What irks me most is that it's often people who claim to be unpolitical. But they aren't really, they just don't bother to inform themselves and react on gut feelings instead. Those gut feelings can be dumb anger or dumb "Peace & Love", but if they lead to someone saying that "Putin does not seem like he wants to harm Europe" it doesn't really matter anymore, it's just dumb. What can you say to such people? "Inform yourself"?

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                        Americans also overwhelmingly oppose Canada becoming 51st state

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                          No shit, no one wants this. Why would we??

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                          Fr - who, with the minimum amount of decency, would want to be part of this?

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                            What sane person would want to be under the control of the Orange Turd.

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                              It made me lol, and not in a good way: why would there even be a poll?

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                              Its noise. The media eats it up. Meanwhile the economy is tanking and government spending is worse than it is under most democratic presidents. It's the Trump administration flak shield. It was tested last administration and it works very well unfortunately. Kick up enough dust around the well and people will talk about how bad the dust is instead of the fact that somebody just drank the well dry.

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                                Americans also overwhelmingly oppose Canada becoming 51st state

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                                Hell, I wish my own state wasn't a US state.

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                                  Yeah not only in the USA for sure. Here in Europe too. What irks me most is that it's often people who claim to be unpolitical. But they aren't really, they just don't bother to inform themselves and react on gut feelings instead. Those gut feelings can be dumb anger or dumb "Peace & Love", but if they lead to someone saying that "Putin does not seem like he wants to harm Europe" it doesn't really matter anymore, it's just dumb. What can you say to such people? "Inform yourself"?

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                                  Meet them on their level. Tell them the more salacious details about what he's already done, and that he's basically an evil bond villain playing the long game. I tell them about the radioactive poisoning, nerve agent poisonings, troll farms, election interference. Throw in a bit of nationalism, after all Putin's been goading us for years, he basically rubbed our faces in his misdeeds... Previously this was all the west, not just Europe.

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                                    No shit, no one wants this. Why would we??

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                                    The guy down the street from me with a giant “Trump 2024” flag probably wants it. Fucking traitor.

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                                      The guy down the street from me with a giant “Trump 2024” flag probably wants it. Fucking traitor.

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                                      Sounds like a great target for egging. Bonus points for being topical.

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                                        Well No Shit. Why would anyone want to buy into the hot mess we've got going right now?

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                                          Americans also overwhelmingly oppose Canada becoming 51st state

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                                          I for one support my state becoming part of Canada

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