AfD is the most popular party in Germany for the first time, with a record 26%
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For what‘s worth it doesn‘t actually matter what potential voters would vote for each and every week when the next election is almost 4 years away. If anything, bold headlines like these only act as a self fulfilling prophecy and are blatant populism. Even a good government can‘t be super popular every single week and the sooner people realize that, the better for democracy. Though I won‘t hold my breath.
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The last election shouldn't even have happened. It only happened because the previous government was unwilling and too incompetent to do their fucking job to the end of their term. And I don't see how the new one will be in any way more competent and/or willing. All they want is to line their pockets.
The previous government failed because the FDP actively worked against it despite being part of it.
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Should the left not be worried?
About a election in 4 years? Not really. At least not yet. This isn‘t news worthy in my opinion because it doesn‘t tell you anything about what the country will look like in 4 years.
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This is post election. They didn't have the majority during the elections, so while it is impressive, it doesn't give them new political powers. Also, they require coalition partners, but nobody is willing to do that. If a coalition can be formed between (looking at the chart) Union, SPD, and Greens, that puts them at >50% giving them a majority to govern.
If the new coalition is formed and they don't get their act together within the time of governance, the next elections could be fatal for democracy in Germany. Honestly, like in most other European countries facing threats to democracy, their current governments must take decisive and quick action to make more people happy. However, current governments are trying to play the nazi's game, and they are predictably losing ground because that's not a solution.
Major parties are playing identity politics, trying to be populistic, bundling nazi ideas as their own, or quite simply not uniting like for example the French left-wing parties did (however short-lived that was). They should be:
- decreasing the gap between the rich and everybody else
- improving EU and national sovereignty by promoting non-US products and services to stop the influx of US and Russian propaganda
- taking radical action to make lodging and life in general more affordable (more social housing, making multi-home ownership less attractive, regulating the market more, etc.)
- improving public transport to reduce car dependence to reduce air and noise pollution in cities, which also makes transport more affordable
- providing more education with paid educational leave to allow career switches
- reduce hurdles for creating small businesses and provide guidance for those willing to start businesses
- invest in technology that makes life easier and more comfortable (better internet to reduce trips to office and government offices in particular, subsidies and research into improved heating and heat retention to reduce electricity and gas bills, ...)
and so so much more. A happy, educate populace is much less likely to be duped and and magnitudes less likely to vote against their own interests (like voting for lying politicians or nazis).
donno about Germany, but here in UK the current government is actually putting through unexpected changes, but its probably invisible to general public. news outlets are generally pro conservatives here
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The last election was so recent, the new government hasn't even started working yet.
This poll is utterly useless, cause the next election it asks about will be in 4 years.But how much longer does AfD's popularity line keep going up before the government does start working? Do we even expect the current government to be meaningfully different from the previous in that regard?
4 years comes quicker than you think.
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Did you not realize that they performed incredibly well in the elections? Social media is how they will overthrow the last remaining democracies. France, UK and Canada are next. All the young folks are increasingly more conservative and within 2-6 years, it's going to be game over.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, maybe people just don't like to hear it. You're not wrong.
To add, these people generally have more kids, and raise them to be conservative. It's depressing. It might take some severe hardship on people to shift left again? Not sure what that is, hopefully not another world War.
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We are fucked
It‘s what this headline wants you to feel but it doesn‘t mean that much if you actually think about it for a moment.
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The previous government failed because the FDP actively worked against it despite being part of it.
The current government doesn't include the FDP.The current government includes the SPD, which willingly entered into a coalition with the FDP. The CDU is following the same agenda as the FDP. History is repeating itself, just as in the Weimar Republic, none of the established parties are willing and/or able to solve problems that actually matter to the population, creating a giant void in the political landscape that the Nazi scum is happily occupying.
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They just asked 1502 people by phone.
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We really should stop using the term "conservative" for what the self proclaimed "conservative" parties are doing. Because they don't conserve anything. They do the exact opposite. They exploit and destroy.
I don't disagree, but when one part of society uses word A and the other part uses word B that would only further increase polarization, which already is a serious problem. I think it'd be better it we continue using the name they use for themselves, but point out what a weird name it is for them. So we could tell them for example that we find it strange they consider themselves "conservative" parties because they don't conserve anything. They do the exact opposite. They exploit and destroy.
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About a election in 4 years? Not really. At least not yet. This isn‘t news worthy in my opinion because it doesn‘t tell you anything about what the country will look like in 4 years.
If the current government is even willing and able to serve their term to its end (the previous one didn't), and actually improve the situation enough so people stop running after some rat catchers with a simple lie as the supposed solution.
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- Fear mongering is making people worried.
- You are against this report for doing this to leftists, hence you are against making leftist people worried.
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You can be against news fearmongering a certain group and also believe the fear this group has is valid. In this case, the leftist could for example be already worried by the actual situation and not because of the fearmongering.
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The current government includes the SPD, which willingly entered into a coalition with the FDP. The CDU is following the same agenda as the FDP. History is repeating itself, just as in the Weimar Republic, none of the established parties are willing and/or able to solve problems that actually matter to the population, creating a giant void in the political landscape that the Nazi scum is happily occupying.
If you ask the population what problems actually matter to them right now, a large part of them will answer "close the borders to protect us from crime".
Which would mean leaving the EU despite the fact that the crime rate is lower than it was in the past.
Or they'll say "make gas cheaper". Which the government can't do without bankrupting itself and would cause loads of other problems.Then you have a party that promises to solve the problems that are actually behind why people are struggling: the rent crisis, rich people syphoning off all wealth, the cost of living, etc...
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I don't disagree, but when one part of society uses word A and the other part uses word B that would only further increase polarization, which already is a serious problem. I think it'd be better it we continue using the name they use for themselves, but point out what a weird name it is for them. So we could tell them for example that we find it strange they consider themselves "conservative" parties because they don't conserve anything. They do the exact opposite. They exploit and destroy.
The problem is that more simple minded people who are actually conservative, as they want to conserve society as it is, will easily fall for the propaganda and vote for a party that is out to destroy what they want to conserve.
The self proclaimed standing of a party is part of its propaganda. Unfortunately the media are complicit with the parties on perpetuating their propaganda, by calling parties by their chosen adjectives, rather than by what would be more fitting. Conservatives should rather be called "Destructives", and in many countries, "Social Democrats" are rather Neoliberals, for they have long sold out social democracy to the highest bidder and now follow an extremist free market ideology, their only remaining difference to the "Conservatives" being not wanting to return to societal norms from 60 years ago.
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In phone polls, not an election...
Still shows you something you can't see by asking your neighbours, colleagues and family. But I agree it doesn't matter in a real way.
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No for fucks sake. Fearmongering is the irrational exaggeration of a worrisome situation to a degree that incites fear (hence the term fearmongering) and panic.
So what irrational fears are promoted about the AdF getting into power and achieving greater public support?
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Short version is they cannot govern without a coalition partner, but they gain other rights in the parliament, such as filling important positions in the administration. When they reach 1/3 of the votes, so 33% they have a Sperrminorität, which means they can't prevent changes in the constitution and also hinder new judges in the constitutional court.
Extra context: Sperrminorität translates to a blocking minority, as in you have enough votes to prevent a 2/3 majority vote.
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Germany: well, okay, listen, it's not working out for America, and it didn't work out for us that one time, but they promised it'll be different for us. What's a few civil liberties and social safety nets if it means we get to
extract slave labor from immigrantsput immigrants in prison for life for the crime of existing? -
Plus two percent, a difference of one percent two second place and an error martin of two point five percent. Congrats.
Besides that, I really start to hate these reports. Weekly updates on the Sonntagsfrage are utterly lacking substance, fearmongering (to left leaning people) and reassurance (to AfD voters). Everything we do not need.
Also, the heads of most of the polling institutes are openly right leaning.
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If you ask the population what problems actually matter to them right now, a large part of them will answer "close the borders to protect us from crime".
Which would mean leaving the EU despite the fact that the crime rate is lower than it was in the past.
Or they'll say "make gas cheaper". Which the government can't do without bankrupting itself and would cause loads of other problems.Then you have a party that promises to solve the problems that are actually behind why people are struggling: the rent crisis, rich people syphoning off all wealth, the cost of living, etc...
That party got 8% of the vote.This mindset is manufactured by the Nazi scum turning a cost of living crisis into an immigration and crime crisis in order to present foreigners as an easy scapegoat. The established parties and the media jumped the bandwagon and joined in on their lies.
Then you have a party that promises to solve the problems that are actually behind why people are struggling: the rent crisis, rich people syphoning off all wealth, the cost of living, etc…
How do you solve this in a democracy?
A democracy that actually wants to solve the problem of power hungry unscrupuloaus politicians abusing the system by blatantly lying needs to punish lies, and regulate the media.
These days the media are largely only parrotting everything that is said to them rather than doing their job as journalists and exposing lies and falsehoods as what they are. Instead they are hiding behind false balance and will parrot some insane crackpot's made up lies to counter any fact they might accidentally have to report.
