Debian is Ditching X (Twitter) Citing These Reasons

[prodajvodapavel@aggregatet.org]

citing concerns over values and diversity.

Sigh. It's always for the dumbest reasons that people leave these abusive platforms.

[toastal@lemmy.ml]

No.

It costs literally hundreds of thousands of USD per month to run your own node. If it isn’t accessible to the masses, it isn’t revolutionary. De facto centralization due to prohibitively expensive costs is effectively centralization—same reason we should not trust a platform like Matrix.

Bluesky is just another startup grifting with open washing. It has all the same VC-funded trappings where the history of Twitter will literally just repeat itself—like we didn’t see what happened with it the first time around.

Mastodon can improve its UX but some of these platforms are rotten to the core.

[dragonfucker@lemmy.nz]

Drag values not being a Nazi and X doesn't. This isn't a dumb reason to stop using it.

[toastal@lemmy.ml]

Nail on the head… it isn’t about one particular service or protocol but the philosophy of federation

[prodajvodapavel@aggregatet.org]

You're just supporting whichever platform censors what you don't like.

[fashim@lemmy.world]

Fuck off, placating Nazis does more damage to free speech than any of this.

It is a valid reason, it is also perfectly moral to use violence against Nazis.

[prodajvodapavel@aggregatet.org]

Gonna ignore you bud.

Hope you find peace someday.

[fashim@lemmy.world]

Yeah sounds about right, enjoy your failed state.

[dragonfucker@lemmy.nz]

There will be peace when we have killed enough Nazis.

[prodajvodapavel@aggregatet.org]

Right. Just completely ignore the disparity in wealth...

Gonna ignore you now btw. Goodbye.

[ferk@lemmy.ml]

Were they using X to provide updates exclusively?

My impression from the post is that they are publishing the exact same updates in multiple locations, including https://framapiaf.org/@debian

I do agree with the move, but only because Debian being an open source project should stay away from proprietary platforms.. not because they were somehow shutting people off by publishing the news in more places.

[ferk@lemmy.ml]

I think the argument is that those alternatives already existed before. Twitter was not being prioritized. So effectively, there's one less place where the news will be visible.

However, I do agree with the move, but only because Debian being a FOSS initiative should stay away from proprietary platforms and promote FOSS, even if it means effectively "shutting off" a portion of users who not wanna leave the twitter bubble.

[ravermeister@lemmy.rimkus.it]

First it is reinventing the wheel, xmpp exists for a very long time, second there are only a few server implantations, third the resource consumption of them is so high that you can't really run it reliably oh a raspberry pi for your family

[d_k_bo@feddit.org]

Fuck X.com, all my homies use wayland.social

[slikki@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Ship ship ship!

[mitm0@lemmy.world]

Point taken (Although I don't see any issues with re-inventing the wheel), I really wished XMPP had riddiculously good bridging capabilities

Then XMPP Would be perfect

[treczoks@lemmy.world]

I'd even say, the usefullness is fully gone.

[some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org]

If you ask me, this looks like a big possibility, as X/Twitter's evident bias towards the newly established U.S. government and their favoring of one demographic over the other could have set off Debian's move.

That's just me speculating, though.

No, you got it right. I get that you need to cover your ass to avoid a lawsuit, but it's exactly because a guy who loves the adoration of nazis owns the platform.

[laurelraven@lemmy.zip]

Adding a bit more context, X.Org/X11 is often just called X for short

[jim3692@discuss.online]

It's not loading for me. Is that instance up?