PayPal owns brands like Venmo, Honey and is heavily integrated into eBay - if you're looking to stop giving your money to bad companies, take a second to search their subsidiary brands as well.
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Well obviously - me as well - but I'm being told by extremists here that any support for a Trump supporter makes me a Nazi, and I don't want to be one of those.
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Yes, as long as they are not operating the vegetable farms in Europe I am rather safe I think
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A lot of them, sure. Not all of them.
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Fairly accurate.
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And they print Nestlé on most, if not all, packaging. So it's easy to see.
Most of the brands I haven't even heard of, probably because I just don't buy that much processed food.So yes, avoiding Nestlé is easy if you are paying just a little bit of attention while shopping groceries.
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That is only the main nestle products. They own so so many things that do not have the nestle brand name on them.
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Depends on which function you want to replace?
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Now apply that logic to voting. Your vote is a grain of sugar, yet it somehow does have an effect, doesn't it?
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Maybe one of these options are good?
https://alternativeto.net/software/paypal/
https://alternativeto.net/software/venmo/
While we're at it:
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Looking through Amazon alternatives... they all suck so far. Though this Etsy alternative looks interesting:
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"Heavily integrated into eBay" except it isnt any more.
Firstly the article is a year and a half old but although you can still use PayPal on eBay to say it is heavily integrated is bullshit. EBay started moving away from PayPal years ago and at this point have integrated their own systems linking to your bank account to take the place of what they used to use PayPal for.
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A lot of people own a gram of sugar and make up a lot of sugar cubes. Informing them and motivating boycotts can have an accumulating effect.
But I'd say vote with both anyway. Your democratic vote and your money.
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No, it can't. It's an ultraliberal fiction about a self-correcting market we know for a fact doesn't play out in reality.
This would require wealth to be roughly evenly divided, it would require enough supply to always have a supplier available who brands on whatever issue the consumer is trying to push on every market and it would require the consumer to research every issue and track it throughout the corporate ownership chain effectively.
It just doesn't work like that. The way it works is I don't like to pay Microsoft OR Google for their crappy office suites, but the open source alternatives are bad and the people I work with require using those for compatibility reasons, so I pay both.
What I can do, though, is set up a social democratic state where I don't have to make an ethical or political statement with my choice of office software, I have a government in place that will fine the crap out of them for their infractions.
And if that's not working, my action can be placed on pressuring the government, for which I have way fewer constraints and way more agency.
If it makes you feel funny to pay for a thing absolutely pay for something else. That's all well and good. But don't fool yourself and others by pretending it's an effective form of political action or a moral responsibility. It's neither.
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Chances are you‘re using AWS by Amazon daily and likely use an Apple or Google phone too. I personally don‘t think Paypal is worse than those. It‘s sheer impossible to escape them without ditching the Internet altogether.
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Also you need to invest in alternatives
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Yeah, I copy pasted from the Internet. Anyone who actually cares can look it up. I just thought it was fun for effect.
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Coke isn't much better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HFZ3cH1UAI
Gosh I'm jelly though, I'm in the UK and tap water used to be drinkable, but now it's more hydrocarbon than hydrogen dioxide these days. Joy of privatised utilities eh?
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Yes. But was talking about PayPal brands specifically. Let's not forget musk's involvement with the early days of PayPal. That's always been a turn off for me too.
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Nazis are fascists just like Trump. You're being told accurately my dude.
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PayPal was acquired by Ebay for 1.5 billion in stock. Group that benefitted from that transactionmost already included musk, thiel, etc. They are intrinsically tired together forever. You also see PayPal as an option for all transactions in eBay, the very recent addition of alternative options, after decades of socializing people on PayPal as the default option doesn't change much.
Imagine your side of this "argument" being the hill someone dies on... I sure hope you're a bot, because otherwise you seem a pretty sad, confused human
