'Meta Torrented over 81 TB of Data Through Anna's Archive, Despite Few Seeders' * TorrentFreak

[general_effort@lemmy.world]

No. Seriously, why do you want to call yourself a socialist?

[tregetour@lemdro.id]

20 was the lead engineer 'mishearing' Zuck after he said 2.

[foobarrington@lemmy.world]

I support FOSS LLMs, but which actually exist? Which LLMs have open-sourced all their training data?

[grimy@lemmy.world]

The existence hinges on the rewriting and strengthening of copyright laws by data brokers and other cancerous tech companies. It's not Meta vs us, but Meta and us vs Google and Openai.

They are being sued for copyright infringement when it's clearly highly transformative. The rules are fine as is, Meta isn't the one trying to change them. You seem to imply I should go against my own interests and support frivolous lawsuits that will negatively impact me just because Meta is a boogeyman.

[drascus@sh.itjust.works]

Just gotta love these big tech companies and their bullshit double standards.

[misk@sopuli.xyz]

The world is in a mess is that we were told to choose between fascists and pro-market technocrat libertarians pretending to be leftists. This is a worldwide issue that’s doubly important because those liberals guilt trip us for not supporting them and that’s why I’m just laying little bricks here and there. At the end of the tunnel we either rework our society into a socialist one or we succumb to feudal lords again.

[monkdervierte@lemmy.ml]

it’s incredibly impractical to persecute those accessing them.

Always was. If you're serious, persecute those hosting it.

[general_effort@lemmy.world]

When you call yourself a socialist, what do you mean by that term?

[c126@sh.itjust.works]

Yeah the least they could do is seed forever.

[laintrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Mistral? Deepseek?

Not LLM but also SD.

[nyan@lemmy.cafe]

They might end up having to pay more money than exists on the planet at that rate.

[misk@sopuli.xyz]

I assume you probably want to know how this kind of leftism is different from others or other ideologies calling themself leftist, rather than for me to write an essay on myself.

I believe in equal opportunity but reject that you should be able to „win” in any system. I believe in empathy over soulless meritocracy. I believe in collective ownership but don’t reject that one is owed for his work. You could say it all stems from egalitarianism but this term has been caricatured by liberals too. For a long time I thought social democracy as an ideology gives you enough levers in the system to steer it toward that goal but time and time again it turned out that in most places SocDem parties are no different from liberal ones.

[foobarrington@lemmy.world]

Can I freely download all the training data for any of those? I was under the impression they were all trained on non-licensed and copyrighted data.

[bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

The Pirates of the Crown

[general_effort@lemmy.world]

I assume you probably want to know how this kind of leftism is different from others or other ideologies calling themself leftist, rather than for me to write an essay on myself.

What confuses me is that you argue that property owners should be able to demand payment for the use of their property without any further consideration. That is a very conservative capitalist stance. It's not compatible with any flavor of socialism that I am aware of. In fact, most pro-capitalists would reject it as too far right. The only ideologue, I can think of, that holds this stance even for copyrights is Ayn Rand. Your ideas seem compatible with hers. I don't understand why you would think of that as socialist or even left.

[misk@sopuli.xyz]

When you think payment you think „money” but I think „fair” We’ve been broken by capitalist hegemony to the point it’s hard of thinking of something different.

[general_effort@lemmy.world]

Still sounds like Ayn Rand and not socialism.

[rumba@lemmy.zip]

GPT, Meta, Deepseek and Google have probably all been trained on the data.

The problem is, training on the data, and actually training for knowledge of the data are VERY different things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GkHZQYFOGM

[misk@sopuli.xyz]

It sounds like a European soviet republic. Most of them were working reasonably well and were really good at preventing poverty but were stuck in-between being exploited by Russia and artificially cut off from half the world (big reason why they had to fail). Those countries solved problems progressive western democracies couldn’t ever solve, for example gender wage inequality (to the point it endures today). Unfortunately all of us in the „west” are stuck in a death spiral after US and Russia went tits up in the 70s/80s. Maybe we’ll have another go once this is finally done.

[ad_on_is@lemm.ee]

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