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    Shouldnt have sold your home to a parasite corporation then, doesnt sound very anarchist to me. Then gets angry and enshittifies their city with spraypaint, people from barca aren't the brightest bunch.

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      Sorry, but I couldn't live with myself if I made my outcome better by hurting others.

      And I'm a combat vet. I've learned through my mistakes what I'm willing to live with on my conscience. It's guided who I've become since then.

      If you're willing to give up your morals, ethics and self-consciousness for money, then I'd like to get in an octagon to teach you the difference between me and you.

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      You are a combat vet? And you are here criticizing people for renting and teaching about morals? Holy molly, people have weird values.

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        I don't travel. Like, at all. The most I travel is the 20 miles it takes to get my kid from his mom's house. I don't need the luxury of burning CO2 and ruining the housing market to have a good time.

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        Neat! I'm glad you are comfortable within your bubble.

        On a different tonal note, it's very impressive you have the resources to single-handedly ruin the housing market, but choose not to. /s

        I'm satisfied being well below average in CO2 contribution. I need to see new places in person, and that need serves me much better than putting all my efforts into lowering the CO2 average consumption by another -0.002 kg/year.

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          Sorry, but I couldn't live with myself if I made my outcome better by hurting others.

          And I'm a combat vet. I've learned through my mistakes what I'm willing to live with on my conscience. It's guided who I've become since then.

          If you're willing to give up your morals, ethics and self-consciousness for money, then I'd like to get in an octagon to teach you the difference between me and you.

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          You were a combat vet invading someone's country for personal gain and fuck knows what other fucked up shit you did, you cant say shit about not hurting others

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            So you're saying "what are you doing to stop me"? Because you literally said you're on the side of succumbing to fascism and giving up. My favorite idea of doing something about it is putting you in your red and white shorts and meeting you in the octagon as a show that selfish cunts can be beaten.

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            Yeah sure...violence is always the answer....

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              Shouldnt have sold your home to a parasite corporation then, doesnt sound very anarchist to me. Then gets angry and enshittifies their city with spraypaint, people from barca aren't the brightest bunch.

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              Are you lobotomised? Obviously the author doesn't own the house duh

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                It is absolutely possible to go on vacation without oppressing or exploiting others. It happens all the time. You can avoid Airbnbs and stay in a hotel, camp, sleep in a car, or just stay home.

                I really don't understand how you came to the conclusion that you cease possession of something the moment you end physical contact with it. You're gonna have to walk me through that one if you want to actually argue that point.

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                If there's no state to protect your possession, you are the one responsible for protecting it. The moment you lose physical contact, you cannot protect it. Unless you put traps all over your house to deter an invader.

                I don't see how in a stateless society you could go on vacation without the fear of your home being "stolen" when you return.

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                • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                  If property doesn’t exist, you can’t go on vacation though.

                  We're getting dangerously close to "under Communism, you will share a toothbrush"

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                  We'll. Since I'm uneducated, you could try explaining why I'm wrong instead of making fun of me.

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                    And the corporations have spent so much time and money fighting the idea that now anarchists are now associated with terrorists amongst boomers at least.

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                    To be fair, that's not just due to corporations but also due to the mismatch in meaning between anarchist as a political movement and anarchist as a word from the dictionary. The movement covers only a small portion of what the word covers. Communicating more clearly as a movement can avoid the confusion

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                      Change the game, then. If you were a real player, you'd have the influence or ability to end the game. You're just making excuses to keep going as normal.

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                      I'm not some 'real player'. I'm you're average tech bro smart enough to be buying land.

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                        Do you even know what anarchism is like at all?

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                        Your username is a bit of a contradictio in terminis, if I may say so.

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                          What I don't get is why the people of Barcelona want tourists out. That's such a dumb knee-jerk reaction imho. Tourism is not the problem. In fact it's a major revenue for the city. They could use it to build affordable housing for locals. The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements. If it's not more profitable to give out one's property for short term rentals then the trend will fade. If someone can explain the current anti-tourism stance as opposed to a push for alternative measures I'd appreciate it.

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                            False. I try my best to win at whatever ruleset is in front of me. Its human nature and game theory.

                            The game of capitalism is absolute horseshit. You should hate it. Work to tear it down if you're up for it.

                            I took the cowardly - if you can't beat them join them - approach.

                            I'll bet my life will be better than yours given our choices though. So who's right?

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                            Fuck me, for self-proclaimed coward you are unbelievably smug. Don't you consider that a "better" life also means being able to take pride that the way you move through the world doesn't actively harm others. Just awful.

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                              What I don't get is why the people of Barcelona want tourists out. That's such a dumb knee-jerk reaction imho. Tourism is not the problem. In fact it's a major revenue for the city. They could use it to build affordable housing for locals. The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements. If it's not more profitable to give out one's property for short term rentals then the trend will fade. If someone can explain the current anti-tourism stance as opposed to a push for alternative measures I'd appreciate it.

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                              I’m guessing all those things that could and should happen are not happening because of greed.

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                                It never ceases to amaze me how people get get so brainwashed on xenophobia and hating tourists when its their government at fault.

                                Edit: Well looks like 18 lemmy users didn't read the news. Locals in barcelonia were literally harassing tourists with water-guns, instead of actually protesting against their government.

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                                Its about the cost of living and lack of affordable housing when companies buy up or build new places just to rent them out on airbnb, that's why it says it used to be their home. Nothing to do with tourism or xenophobia.

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                                  Okay, but who. I want the name of a specific person or organisation and a link to where they said that. Because it's such a stupid statement that I'm not going to just take someone's word that someone was dumb enough to say it or thought people would be dumb enough to believe it.

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                                  oh boy, do I have some bad news for you about the stupid shit people believe

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                                    I know at least one city in France taking measures to severely limit Airbnb, because it's becoming a ghost town and people who actually work there can't find anywhere to live. The housing situation in the area is terrible.

                                    Good for them. I already can't stand "professional" landlords that get into the business of shitting over places people need to live to maximise profit. Those who are taking over those spaces to turn them into fake hotels without the constraints are the lowest of that scum.

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                                      Its about the cost of living and lack of affordable housing when companies buy up or build new places just to rent them out on airbnb, that's why it says it used to be their home. Nothing to do with tourism or xenophobia.

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                                      Looks like someone didn't read the news.

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                                        What I don't get is why the people of Barcelona want tourists out. That's such a dumb knee-jerk reaction imho. Tourism is not the problem. In fact it's a major revenue for the city. They could use it to build affordable housing for locals. The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements. If it's not more profitable to give out one's property for short term rentals then the trend will fade. If someone can explain the current anti-tourism stance as opposed to a push for alternative measures I'd appreciate it.

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                                        The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements.

                                        Not easy. They tried but don't have the authority. I think they managed for home long term rentals but not as aggressive as before.

                                        The revenue from tourism is limited to the city. Most rentals are owned by large foreign companies, so profit goes away. Clearly not enough to pay for extra housing (one airbnb house taxes can't pay for a full new house).

                                        Also, they are pushing away people who lived there, as the neighborhoods are focusing on tourists more and more (again, foreign investment firms who don't spend back in the city).

                                        I used to live 25 min walking to Sagrada Familia. 8 years ago there were usually no tourists or stores focused on tourists. Now it's a very common place for tourists to stay, and prices show it.

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                                          What I don't get is why the people of Barcelona want tourists out. That's such a dumb knee-jerk reaction imho. Tourism is not the problem. In fact it's a major revenue for the city. They could use it to build affordable housing for locals. The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements. If it's not more profitable to give out one's property for short term rentals then the trend will fade. If someone can explain the current anti-tourism stance as opposed to a push for alternative measures I'd appreciate it.

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                                          Because the people making money are not the people living there.

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