Graffiti seen in Barcelona, Catalonia
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People who can no longer afford their mortgages would disagree with you.
They should find a job
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Yeah, that doesn't happen because of me. You can keep trying to shame me as an outlet for your anger from the ultra-wealthy and large businesses if that makes you feel better.
Unprofessional opinion tho, trying to make yourself feel more morally correct because you have different needs or can't access them isn't the healthiest way to express these feelings.
The average Joe is not accountable for any meaningful amount of pollution until after the private jets are prohibited. My city does what it can with local ordinance, and I do what I can to contribute to carbon neutral initiatives. Reduce has been the big focus this year. I'm thankful to have a place to bring my own bottles for soap, shampoo, laudry detergent, deodrant bars, and such.
You judge people before trying to know them and ask questions. Your assumptions hold you back.
You're right in that the average Joe isn't the most accountable, but the average Joe can hurt the companies and people who ARE most accountable. That means not indulging them, and definitely not giving them money.
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Greedy real instate investors bought everything there because there was a demand from non Portuguese people with much higher salaries than the locals.
You don't see that type of phenomenon in random towns in the Portuguese back country
They bought because there is demand, period. "They" are both foreign and domestic, as are their customers, so stop blaming foreigners.
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People who can no longer afford their mortgages would disagree with you.
People who can no longer afford their mortgages because they suddenly can't leech of off working people can go fuck themselves.
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I'm renting. And if the owner sells the place, that's their right and prerogative to do so.
They must have delicious boots
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Build. More. Homes.
We used to have enough, and then in the late 70s, early 80s they decided that if they didn't build enough, then they could make housing scarce and therefore more valuable. A big long-con, 40 years in the making.
Housebuilders would make more profit per home. Homeowners would have more wealth (even if they can't access it). Inheritance taxes could take more of a bite. Landlords could charge more. Retirements could be funded entirely by buying 2-3 houses and renting them out, and then cash in later on the full value of those homes when they'd gone up by double the interest rates.
They don't have to be amazing homes. They don't need an acre of land to sit on. They don't need three bedrooms. Kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, living room. Affordable on a quarter of a single person's minimum wage income.
We already have enough homes, it's just that too many of them are owned by Black Rock and similar companies.
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You're right in that the average Joe isn't the most accountable, but the average Joe can hurt the companies and people who ARE most accountable. That means not indulging them, and definitely not giving them money.
wrote last edited by [email protected]And so you have beef with my habits because... I don't know. I'm still trying to connect how me using an AirBnB maybe once a year within the USA not in Tourism cities is related to giving non-citizen landowners of foreign properties money.
Are you saying because I use AirBnB at all it is benefiting that group of scalpers? That sounds like saying using ebay helps scalpers and you shouldn't ever use ebay because of that. I don't see/agree with that connection.
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We already have enough homes, it's just that too many of them are owned by Black Rock and similar companies.
I thought investment companies didn't own that many, but just enough to bump the price too high. Like they influenced the market. Now developers are building in the hopes they get bought by the investment guys.
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They bought because there is demand, period. "They" are both foreign and domestic, as are their customers, so stop blaming foreigners.
I am myself a foreigner in Barcelona, and I'm well aware that me coming here pushes out local people out of the city.
Not sure why you're so defensive about it, is it a widely documented phenomenon.
Over the past decade, Lisbon has undergone a startling metamorphosis, shifting from one of Europe’s most affordable capitals to its most unaffordable. This dramatic change is evident in the skyrocketing house prices, which surged by 176% across the city between 2014 and 2024 and by over 200% in its historic central districts. Today, Lisbon leads Europe’s housing unaffordability rankings, a stark reflection of its home price-to-income ratio. This trend isn’t confined to the capital; nationally, Portugal has plummeted from 22nd out of 27 EU countries for housing unaffordability in 2015 to first place today. For a country where 60% of taxpayers earn less than €1,000 per month, securing a rental in Lisbon below that price is only feasible if one is willing to occupy 20 square metres or less.
Simultaneously, both the hotel industry and the short-term rental sector received significant promotion, alongside initiatives designed to attract tourists, digital nomads, international students, and transient young professionals. The impact on Lisbon’s historic centre has been dramatic, with half of all homes now holding a short-term rental licence, a figure that escalates to 70 out of every 100 in the most tourist-saturated areas. Compared to the city’s population, Lisbon’s short-term rental density is six times higher than Barcelona’s and 3.5 times higher than London’s. Furthermore, the number of hotels in the city has tripled since 2010, rising from approximately 100 to 300, with plans for around 50 more already approved by the city council. This phenomenon is not unique to Lisbon, playing out across other European cities, particularly in Southern Europe, where residents are increasingly pushing back through protests.
https://movingmarkets.org/lisbons-housing-crisis-a-capital-transformed-a-city-divided/
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The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements.
Not easy. They tried but don't have the authority. I think they managed for home long term rentals but not as aggressive as before.
The revenue from tourism is limited to the city. Most rentals are owned by large foreign companies, so profit goes away. Clearly not enough to pay for extra housing (one airbnb house taxes can't pay for a full new house).
Also, they are pushing away people who lived there, as the neighborhoods are focusing on tourists more and more (again, foreign investment firms who don't spend back in the city).
I used to live 25 min walking to Sagrada Familia. 8 years ago there were usually no tourists or stores focused on tourists. Now it's a very common place for tourists to stay, and prices show it.
Hello,
Not sure if you're still in Barcelona, but there is [email protected]
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And so you have beef with my habits because... I don't know. I'm still trying to connect how me using an AirBnB maybe once a year within the USA not in Tourism cities is related to giving non-citizen landowners of foreign properties money.
Are you saying because I use AirBnB at all it is benefiting that group of scalpers? That sounds like saying using ebay helps scalpers and you shouldn't ever use ebay because of that. I don't see/agree with that connection.
Have you never chosen to boycott a company before? I won't go to Chick-fil-A for any reason. It doesn't matter if the franchisee holds the exact same level of hatred for lgbtq+. The fact that it isn't a disqualifier is enough for me. Not all MAGAts are pedophiles but the fact that they can excuse it for other reasons in their head means I don't fucking talk to those people. So yeah, you giving money to horrible people makes me think of you a certain way.
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You have to realise that landlords aren't the plague. They're the buboes. A symptom.
If you can take your spare money (a concept from days gone by, I know), buy a house for X, rent it out for Y a month, then finally sell it in 20 years for Z, and be 99.99% guaranteed to make more money from it than you can from pretty much any other source, then why wouldn't you?
Remove the incentive for that (homes that don't go up by more than the inflation rate), there will be no need for them to exist.
But in any case, the size of the building projects required would likely be government level anyway, and they can be the "landlord" for anyone not wanting to buy. This was called council houses in the olden days, before Maggie Thatcher killed that.
I realize that not all landlords are to blame, just the greedy ones. There are way more of those.
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That's where community and mutual aid come in. You have neighbors who also would like to not lose their homes either so they would protect yours like you would protect theirs. The importance and strength of community rises as the power of the state diminishes.
That sounds like such a stressful life. Having to constantly police not only your property but your neighbours property.
And that just won't work when the aggressor is mightier than your local community, which doesn't sound hard at all. Or if your neighborhood is more friendly towards your aggressor than towards you. Which would also end up in constant drama.
I don't like your solution at all.
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People who can no longer afford their mortgages would disagree with you.
Fuck landlords bitch.
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I get that people want to see regulations on landlords, etc, but naysayers here don’t seem to have considered that it might be easier to convince would-be tourists that a place isn’t a relaxing holiday destination than it is to get a majority of the right level of politicians to agree to draft complex legislation in opposition from monied and powerful capitalist interests. Targeting tourists is totally fair game and good strategy, that doesn’t rule out pursuing regulations as well.
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They must have delicious boots
Yeah, a tenant should definitely have more rights over the owners property than the owner. Keep thinking that way.
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An important population we need to increase is ethical landlords.
And by ethical, I mean former.
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People who can no longer afford their mortgages would disagree with you.
I and many working people like me can't afford a mortgage EVER because all of the market is bought up for renting, so they would become just like me, except I'd have a real fucking job
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Your neighbor was your friend... Until they sold out.
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I am myself a foreigner in Barcelona, and I'm well aware that me coming here pushes out local people out of the city.
Not sure why you're so defensive about it, is it a widely documented phenomenon.
Over the past decade, Lisbon has undergone a startling metamorphosis, shifting from one of Europe’s most affordable capitals to its most unaffordable. This dramatic change is evident in the skyrocketing house prices, which surged by 176% across the city between 2014 and 2024 and by over 200% in its historic central districts. Today, Lisbon leads Europe’s housing unaffordability rankings, a stark reflection of its home price-to-income ratio. This trend isn’t confined to the capital; nationally, Portugal has plummeted from 22nd out of 27 EU countries for housing unaffordability in 2015 to first place today. For a country where 60% of taxpayers earn less than €1,000 per month, securing a rental in Lisbon below that price is only feasible if one is willing to occupy 20 square metres or less.
Simultaneously, both the hotel industry and the short-term rental sector received significant promotion, alongside initiatives designed to attract tourists, digital nomads, international students, and transient young professionals. The impact on Lisbon’s historic centre has been dramatic, with half of all homes now holding a short-term rental licence, a figure that escalates to 70 out of every 100 in the most tourist-saturated areas. Compared to the city’s population, Lisbon’s short-term rental density is six times higher than Barcelona’s and 3.5 times higher than London’s. Furthermore, the number of hotels in the city has tripled since 2010, rising from approximately 100 to 300, with plans for around 50 more already approved by the city council. This phenomenon is not unique to Lisbon, playing out across other European cities, particularly in Southern Europe, where residents are increasingly pushing back through protests.
https://movingmarkets.org/lisbons-housing-crisis-a-capital-transformed-a-city-divided/
Did you ask to pay more for rent or a house? Didn't think so.
Did your landlord/seller raise prices 'cos The Market
allows them to be greedy bastards? I'd bet so.
Maybe a picture will help: replace "refugees" with wichever group you want to blame for rising prices.
