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  • N [email protected]

    You mean like as opposed to a government assigned home?

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    You can't really live without air, food and a home, it's a basic need, it should not be something you can horder like a dragon and deny the access to others

    It's very interesting this binary thinking in terms of good vs evil, private own vs government own, it's very hard to think outside bourgeoisie ideology?

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      An important population we need to increase is ethical landlords.

      And by ethical, I mean former.

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      The only good landlord is a former landlord.

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      • W [email protected]

        Ban landlord culture and property prices drop.

        Kinda sucks for those already with a mortgage. Defending rental culture because someone might lose out now only guarantees that an ever increasing majority lose out in the future.

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        It's not just landlords pushing it up.

        The constrained supply, the low interest rates, the greedy banks pushing bigger and bigger mortgages, government "help to buy" schemes which appear to be a way to help people buy homes, but in effect just pushes the price ever higher...

        The centralisation of jobs in certain areas. We have the internet. This could have practically solved the property crisis on it's own, along with overloaded transport systems and pollution, but rich people were losing too much money, so back to the office, plebs.

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          You can't really live without air, food and a home, it's a basic need, it should not be something you can horder like a dragon and deny the access to others

          It's very interesting this binary thinking in terms of good vs evil, private own vs government own, it's very hard to think outside bourgeoisie ideology?

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          You said a lot of stuff but I don't think any of it would really help someone who isn't on the same page as you already

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            The only good landlord is a former landlord.

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            I have a pretty good landlord. This isn't an ACAB situation. The problem is the market, IMO, if not capitalism entirely; even if you got rid of landlords (made it illegal to have tenants), housing prices would still be too high to buy a house. Supply-side or demand-side economics are the only viable solution under capitalism.

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            • J [email protected]

              I have a pretty good landlord. This isn't an ACAB situation. The problem is the market, IMO, if not capitalism entirely; even if you got rid of landlords (made it illegal to have tenants), housing prices would still be too high to buy a house. Supply-side or demand-side economics are the only viable solution under capitalism.

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              Yeah, and there will always be a demand for temporary housing. Even if every person has property, tourists need places to stay, you'd need a place to stay if your house is leveled by a natural disaster, it doesn't make sense to jump through all the hoops of property ownership if you just want to be closer to mom's nursing home in her final months, etc.

              The problem isn't filling that need, it's making a profit off it.

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                Is he hiring? Is he willing to pay a reasonable living wage?

                If not he should STFU.

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                reasonable living wage?

                Whoaaaaa hold on there Chairman Adolf Stalin!! Are you asking him to stifle his innovation??

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                • J [email protected]

                  I have a pretty good landlord. This isn't an ACAB situation. The problem is the market, IMO, if not capitalism entirely; even if you got rid of landlords (made it illegal to have tenants), housing prices would still be too high to buy a house. Supply-side or demand-side economics are the only viable solution under capitalism.

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                  All landlords are bastards

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                  • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                    People who can no longer afford their mortgages would disagree with you.

                    Edit: I've absolutely no fucking idea why you all think I mean landlords here. You do realise normal people have mortgages right? And if you don't pay them, the bank take your house and make you homeless?

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                    So? Then they shouldn't have gotten real estate to begin with if they can't afford a house. A person who relies on renting property to make a living are leaches living off the working class.

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                      Yeah, and there will always be a demand for temporary housing. Even if every person has property, tourists need places to stay, you'd need a place to stay if your house is leveled by a natural disaster, it doesn't make sense to jump through all the hoops of property ownership if you just want to be closer to mom's nursing home in her final months, etc.

                      The problem isn't filling that need, it's making a profit off it.

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                      under capitalism, almost nothing happens without a profit. If you're so sure the problem isn't capitalism, please explain to me how exactly you're imagining things should work.

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                        All landlords are bastards

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                        ..no, that's just what I said is not the case. You must have misread?

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                        • S [email protected]

                          On Airbnb or the garfiti?

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                          Air bnb. Actually, I think street art is pretty encouraged. But not tagging like this.

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                          • J [email protected]

                            under capitalism, almost nothing happens without a profit. If you're so sure the problem isn't capitalism, please explain to me how exactly you're imagining things should work.

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                            I don't know how you got 'this person is pro-capitalism' from me saying 'profit is the problem'.

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                              I don't know how you got 'this person is pro-capitalism' from me saying 'profit is the problem'.

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                              I said:

                              The problem is the market, IMO, if not capitalism entirely

                              but it seemed to me that you were disagreeing with my post when you said "the problem is making a profit off it." I could have misunderstood, and you were agreeing?

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                                I said:

                                The problem is the market, IMO, if not capitalism entirely

                                but it seemed to me that you were disagreeing with my post when you said "the problem is making a profit off it." I could have misunderstood, and you were agreeing?

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                                You think capitalism is the problem, yes? If so, we are in agreement.

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                                • J [email protected]

                                  I have a pretty good landlord. This isn't an ACAB situation. The problem is the market, IMO, if not capitalism entirely; even if you got rid of landlords (made it illegal to have tenants), housing prices would still be too high to buy a house. Supply-side or demand-side economics are the only viable solution under capitalism.

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                                  We could still have great property managers without landlords. Then you wouldn't even need to be thankful that your lord happens to be one of the benevolent ones.

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                                    ..no, that's just what I said is not the case. You must have misread?

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                                    Looking at the instances you two are from I feel like I'm taking crazy pills 🫨

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                                    • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                                      People who can no longer afford their mortgages would disagree with you.

                                      Edit: I've absolutely no fucking idea why you all think I mean landlords here. You do realise normal people have mortgages right? And if you don't pay them, the bank take your house and make you homeless?

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                                      Why would mortgage prices go up without landlords?

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                                      • W [email protected]

                                        Ban landlord culture and property prices drop.

                                        Kinda sucks for those already with a mortgage. Defending rental culture because someone might lose out now only guarantees that an ever increasing majority lose out in the future.

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                                        Yeah it would suck to have my house drop in value while I still owe the bank so much money, but anyone who isn't willing to suck it up for the obvious greater good is an asshole.

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                                        • grrgyle@slrpnk.netG [email protected]

                                          Looking at the instances you two are from I feel like I'm taking crazy pills 🫨

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                                          Sorry, I forgot to tell you that today is opposite day.

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