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James Gunn Celebrates ‘Superman’s Box Office Win: “I’m Incredibly Grateful For Your Enthusiasm”

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      James Gunn generally knows what he's doing and I'm sure the movie is fine.

      But a film that cost $225M to produce and another $200M to market on a franchise that's nearly a century old and has always been box office gold... If it doesn't turn a cool $1B the studio will consider it a flop. That its cruising in to the box office third place behind Minecraft (predictably disappointing) and the Live Action Lilo & Stitch (Christ, Disney, just die already) is... eh. Not a great sign for The Movies generally speaking.

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        DC Studios will introduce the films Supergirl

        That would be great if Gunn directs again!

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          James Gunn generally knows what he's doing and I'm sure the movie is fine.

          But a film that cost $225M to produce and another $200M to market on a franchise that's nearly a century old and has always been box office gold... If it doesn't turn a cool $1B the studio will consider it a flop. That its cruising in to the box office third place behind Minecraft (predictably disappointing) and the Live Action Lilo & Stitch (Christ, Disney, just die already) is... eh. Not a great sign for The Movies generally speaking.

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          Children's movies tend to have inflated numbers because kids can't see the movie on their own

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            James Gunn generally knows what he's doing and I'm sure the movie is fine.

            But a film that cost $225M to produce and another $200M to market on a franchise that's nearly a century old and has always been box office gold... If it doesn't turn a cool $1B the studio will consider it a flop. That its cruising in to the box office third place behind Minecraft (predictably disappointing) and the Live Action Lilo & Stitch (Christ, Disney, just die already) is... eh. Not a great sign for The Movies generally speaking.

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            I think this is one of the few cases where the studio does care more about the critical and especially fan reception than the box office returns. They are trying to relaunch their whole franchise and this is one of the cornerstones.

            Also $1b is just way off considering not a single superman movie has ever achieved it based on this source.

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              DC Studios will introduce the films Supergirl

              That would be great if Gunn directs again!

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              It seems like Craig Gillespie is directing instead of Gunn.

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                James Gunn generally knows what he's doing and I'm sure the movie is fine.

                But a film that cost $225M to produce and another $200M to market on a franchise that's nearly a century old and has always been box office gold... If it doesn't turn a cool $1B the studio will consider it a flop. That its cruising in to the box office third place behind Minecraft (predictably disappointing) and the Live Action Lilo & Stitch (Christ, Disney, just die already) is... eh. Not a great sign for The Movies generally speaking.

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                You must not have seen any of the recent Superman films.

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                  It seems like Craig Gillespie is directing instead of Gunn.

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                  Looks like Craig has some solid films under his belt, and it's under Gunn's studio, so one might hope his influence rubs off. I'll remain cautiously optimistic about the film.

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                    I think this is one of the few cases where the studio does care more about the critical and especially fan reception than the box office returns. They are trying to relaunch their whole franchise and this is one of the cornerstones.

                    Also $1b is just way off considering not a single superman movie has ever achieved it based on this source.

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                    I think a great example to look at is The Suicide Squad. If you look purely at the numbers, Suicide Squad (2016) brought in ~750m globally versus The Suicide Squad (2021) which brought in ~170m globally.

                    The first Suicide Squad was one of the worst DCEU films. The second The Suicide Squad was one of the best DCEU films and handed DC Studios to James Gunn (and Peter Safran).

                    I think looking purely at the numbers Superman is likely to come out as small victory (monetarily). However as a franchise, it's a solid start.

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                      I think a great example to look at is The Suicide Squad. If you look purely at the numbers, Suicide Squad (2016) brought in ~750m globally versus The Suicide Squad (2021) which brought in ~170m globally.

                      The first Suicide Squad was one of the worst DCEU films. The second The Suicide Squad was one of the best DCEU films and handed DC Studios to James Gunn (and Peter Safran).

                      I think looking purely at the numbers Superman is likely to come out as small victory (monetarily). However as a franchise, it's a solid start.

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                      The second suicide squad also came out at the height of the pandemic. I’m sure that factored into their calculations.

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                        Did they really have to have the good guys go Pinochet on the bad guy at the end of the film?

                        Kind of disturbing.

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                          James Gunn generally knows what he's doing and I'm sure the movie is fine.

                          But a film that cost $225M to produce and another $200M to market on a franchise that's nearly a century old and has always been box office gold... If it doesn't turn a cool $1B the studio will consider it a flop. That its cruising in to the box office third place behind Minecraft (predictably disappointing) and the Live Action Lilo & Stitch (Christ, Disney, just die already) is... eh. Not a great sign for The Movies generally speaking.

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                          An arguement can be made that Superman itself is not a great sign for the movies.

                          Not telling anyone what they should watch, but for me personally there is little difference between Minecraft, Lilo and Stitch and Superman.

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                            I thoroughly enjoyed it, after having gone in expecting it to be a flop.

                            It might be my favorite Superman movie during my lifetime. Haven't decided yet.

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                              You must not have seen any of the recent Superman films.

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                              I've seen quite a few. The box office numbers are regularly better than they should be.

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                                Did they really have to have the good guys go Pinochet on the bad guy at the end of the film?

                                Kind of disturbing.

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                                Idk what Pinochet is

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                                  Idk what Pinochet is

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                                  A deranged South American dictator/despot who famously threw his enemies from helicopters to their deaths. That's who Pinochet was.

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                                    A deranged South American dictator/despot who famously threw his enemies from helicopters to their deaths. That's who Pinochet was.

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                                    Oh, then I mean it doesn't matter how the oppressor dies. But Hawkgirl was real for giving him what he desrved.

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                                      An arguement can be made that Superman itself is not a great sign for the movies.

                                      Not telling anyone what they should watch, but for me personally there is little difference between Minecraft, Lilo and Stitch and Superman.

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                                      Minecraft movie is nice just as an affirmation that the game is impactful but yeah its full of nonsense famous people doing famous people things. I didnt see the other two, unfortunately I hate live action remakes and super hero movies are so predictable these days.

                                      I'd love to hear why people like superman this time around though, maybe they did come up with some unique ideas.

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                                        Oh, then I mean it doesn't matter how the oppressor dies. But Hawkgirl was real for giving him what he desrved.

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                                        That ain't justice dude. So much for "truth, justice, and the American way." That's just normalizing the tactics of fascists. If he's a fuckin war criminal send him to the fucking Hague for trial.

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                                          Minecraft movie is nice just as an affirmation that the game is impactful but yeah its full of nonsense famous people doing famous people things. I didnt see the other two, unfortunately I hate live action remakes and super hero movies are so predictable these days.

                                          I'd love to hear why people like superman this time around though, maybe they did come up with some unique ideas.

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                                          I was curious about how the Minecraft movie adapted the voxel world, but I started watching it and pretty quickly turned it off.

                                          Superhero movies are OK, I like the Batman series, but otherwise I am good watching one movie a decade (with some exceptions).

                                          To me, a lot of the motifs are extremely provincial and lazy. I remember watching the first Iron Man in 2008, there was this scene where Downey Jr. is imprisoned in a cave by the Taliban and he builds the iron man costume out of spare parts or something and escapes.

                                          It was so stupid. Especially considering in real life an American oligarch in such a situation would do everything to not rock the the boat and exploit his American citizenship and financial status to get released (either via an exchange or giving the Taliban lots of money).

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