Google: 'Your $1000 phone needs our permission to install apps now'". Android users are screwed - Louis Rossmann
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So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved
Just give google more money, no thanks.
Fairphone with lineage OS is a better option in my opinion. -
With this shift and other control based decisions Google has been making, does Apple devices start to make more sense? Neither platform offers true control over there device you "own", but Apple at the very least isn't a marketing company.
I can't believe a company hasn't swooped in and eaten Apple and Google's lunch.
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GrapheneOS is one of the last bastions of freedom remaining. I don't know what we'll do if that happens.
Linux phones I guess. I really don’t know.
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The Graphene OS team have said that they are going to continue, have received the pixel 10 phones they ordered and have put out a statement regarding this issue.
wrote last edited by [email protected]No they didn't..
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/25099-pixel-10-still-too-early-to-ask-us-when-it-will-be-supported
Our Pixel 10 support will likely only be possible to complete after we finish porting to Android 16 QPR1 which is being released in September.
They don't know IF they can even support it until they figure out the new releases that are jacking up their dev cycle.
It will be significantly more work than usual to support the new Pixel 10 phones since Android 16 removed the Pixel device trees from the Android Open Source Project. However, that was already only part of what we need for device support and we worked around it by expanding our automated tooling.
This is exactly the issue I'm referencing. Google can completely sabotage this route. We don't know yet.
Edit: I should clarify that they did say they're trying to continue, but should they not be able to crack the device tree issues they will be stuck. Nothing they released said that they've figured this issue out yet.
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iPhone user: “Well well well, how the turntables.”
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TFW more than half of my phone's applications is getting thanos snapped and it's also carrier-locked
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lol the pinned comment on this video is
“Ok, so what do i switch to now? I refuse apple. So what do i have to chose from?”,
and Louis’ reply is “nothing”.
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With this shift and other control based decisions Google has been making, does Apple devices start to make more sense? Neither platform offers true control over there device you "own", but Apple at the very least isn't a marketing company.
I can't believe a company hasn't swooped in and eaten Apple and Google's lunch.
You need a certain critical mass to enter this market, since you need to be able to get an army of Foxconn slaves to produce the handsets.
No company is going to be and to swoop in and eat those two's lunches.
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I know it's not really ready for it yet, but I guess I'm gonna be looking into a Linux phone before I thought I would.
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sailfish?
I've quickily looked up Sailfish and am shocked that we haven't been hearing more about it. Why is so? Where's the catch?
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wrote last edited by [email protected]
Google pixel 8 pro is now 559 euro in holland
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You need a certain critical mass to enter this market, since you need to be able to get an army of Foxconn slaves to produce the handsets.
No company is going to be and to swoop in and eat those two's lunches.
Hell, even the juggernauts of Microsoft and Amazon tried, and they got crushed out of the market.
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For my next phone it will be between a used Pixel with Graphene OS and the Fairphone 6 with the de-Googled e/OS option. A modern Pixel would be a little better for CPU, camera and RAM, but the Fairphone has decent hardware specs and tries to be more ethical about the environment and its suppliers, and it has a replaceable battery. The Fairphone is expensive in the USA though.
https://shop.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-e-operating-system
https://www.wired.com/review/fairphone-gen-6/
Edit: After reading this thread I would lean towards Graphene OS:
Recently a user here did the math on that and the fair/eco part of fairphone is really miniscule (they spend less than 5$ per phone and a big part of that are fairwashing credits).
Unless you need the repairability or the specific specs, you might be better off to buy a cheaper phone and just donate money to a good cause.Here is the original post: https://lemmy.world/post/32013987
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For which one? so far both are option outside iOS and android
Either one, I mean Linux mobile in general
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I know it's not really ready for it yet, but I guess I'm gonna be looking into a Linux phone before I thought I would.
Same, though I think this will be the push the community needs to really launch a good Linux phone. It'll suck for awhile, but I'm looking forward to debating phone distros with all of you.
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You need a certain critical mass to enter this market, since you need to be able to get an army of Foxconn slaves to produce the handsets.
No company is going to be and to swoop in and eat those two's lunches.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You also need every company to develop for a third mobile platform, where two different ones are already a big ask.
Easy solution would be to run existing apps on Linux, probably would be Android.
Another solution would we move to PWAs to have apps in the browser.
Both these things already happened on desktop Linux with Windows games using Proton and most proprietary desktop apps switching to Electron.
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Either one, I mean Linux mobile in general
C2 works on sailfish linux
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iPhone user: “Well well well, how the turntables.”
Just you wait until EU representatives start licking American/Trump buttholes and reverse every sanction or law imposed on US tech.
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You need a certain critical mass to enter this market, since you need to be able to get an army of Foxconn slaves to produce the handsets.
No company is going to be and to swoop in and eat those two's lunches.
At this point, I just need a community device. And I’ll gladly pay monthly for an OS that has the basics with a web browser and full privacy.
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Something kind of concerning I just found - there's an option for "limited distribution" which is "Intended for 'students, hobbyists, and other personal use.'" One of the differences is the following:
Has "capped number of apps and installs"(specific limits not disclosed)
Doesn't this imply there's going to be global tracking of what apps people are installing even through sideloading or APKs? I can't think of any other way to enforce this. They would have to know how many times people installed an app even when its not through any kind of app store or even from the internet at all.
