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Google: 'Your $1000 phone needs our permission to install apps now'". Android users are screwed - Louis Rossmann

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    https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Android_Developer_Verification

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      https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Android_Developer_Verification

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      just installed lineageos with root because of this, so thanks Google i guess

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        https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Android_Developer_Verification

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        So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved

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          So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved

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          Well the assumption is that the Graphene team will be able to maintain non-store app installs. There's recent news that Google is no longer providing update packages the way they used to which will make it harder on Graphene to update stuff too.

          We can't assume that Google's next update will not functionally block the ability for GrapheneOS as well.

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            https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Android_Developer_Verification

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            fuck google tbh

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              So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved

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              Sure, but the problem is the ecosystem of alternatives stores effectively collapsing or falling under Google's control. That will affect everybody who uses them, whether on GrapheneOS, LineageOS or certified devices.

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                So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved

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                Only a matter of time before Google will shut that down too.

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                  Only a matter of time before Google will shut that down too.

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                  GrapheneOS is one of the last bastions of freedom remaining. I don't know what we'll do if that happens.

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                    So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved

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                    The problem is not solved if open source Android apps get abandoned because the vast majority of users can't use them anymore.

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                      https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Android_Developer_Verification

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                      Their arguments are kind of lame. To install APKs from outside the store is already an involved process that generally makes it harder for the uninformed to sideload. Make sideloading a bit harder, but possible. My xiaomi makes me wait and read warnings before installing APKs, for example.

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                        Well the assumption is that the Graphene team will be able to maintain non-store app installs. There's recent news that Google is no longer providing update packages the way they used to which will make it harder on Graphene to update stuff too.

                        We can't assume that Google's next update will not functionally block the ability for GrapheneOS as well.

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                        The Graphene OS team have said that they are going to continue, have received the pixel 10 phones they ordered and have put out a statement regarding this issue.

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                          So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved

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                          https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa

                          https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-community-phone

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                            https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa

                            https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-community-phone

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                            Does it...work yet? Last I heard phone calls were dodgy...

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                              So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved

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                              Everywhere I talk about some corporation removing features you bought and paid for, someone says that "they personally would never used that feature", or "serves them right for buying from that company".

                              In other words, go fuck yourself.

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                                Does it...work yet? Last I heard phone calls were dodgy...

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                                For which one? so far both are option outside iOS and android

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                                  So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved

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                                  what will most people do, who don't have a google pixel?

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                                    GrapheneOS is one of the last bastions of freedom remaining. I don't know what we'll do if that happens.

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                                    sailfish?

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                                      GrapheneOS is one of the last bastions of freedom remaining. I don't know what we'll do if that happens.

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                                      For my next phone it will be between a used Pixel with Graphene OS and the Fairphone 6 with the de-Googled e/OS option. A modern Pixel would be a little better for CPU, camera and RAM, but the Fairphone has decent hardware specs and tries to be more ethical about the environment and its suppliers, and it has a replaceable battery. The Fairphone is expensive in the USA though.

                                      https://shop.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-e-operating-system

                                      https://www.wired.com/review/fairphone-gen-6/

                                      Edit: After reading this thread I would lean towards Graphene OS:

                                      https://lemmy.ca/post/50750274

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                                        https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa

                                        https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-community-phone

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                                        Purism scams their customers left, right, and center and have for effectively their entire existence. They should not be trusted, and their phone specs are basically from 2013 sold for $800.

                                        • Scam (Louis Rossmann)
                                        • Scam
                                        • Scammy
                                        • Scam
                                        • These specs for $800

                                        So even if you're idealistic enough to pay $800 for a phone that'd be in a landfill if it didn't have hardware privacy features, Purism will take that trust you have in them and screw you over – delay you for as long as they need to/can/want with no recourse for a refund outside of maybe the courts. After which you hope you either get a functioning product or get good luck with a disorganized, opaque, scumfuck company like that.

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                                        • thetechnician27@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                          Purism scams their customers left, right, and center and have for effectively their entire existence. They should not be trusted, and their phone specs are basically from 2013 sold for $800.

                                          • Scam (Louis Rossmann)
                                          • Scam
                                          • Scammy
                                          • Scam
                                          • These specs for $800

                                          So even if you're idealistic enough to pay $800 for a phone that'd be in a landfill if it didn't have hardware privacy features, Purism will take that trust you have in them and screw you over – delay you for as long as they need to/can/want with no recourse for a refund outside of maybe the courts. After which you hope you either get a functioning product or get good luck with a disorganized, opaque, scumfuck company like that.

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                                          Thanks for sharing so looks like that one is not an option anymore

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