Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead
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There are already several Rust Kennel From Scratch projects that are reasonably progressed. Redox is one, Asterinas is another.
The latter is I think aiming for Linux ABI compatibility.
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I think it's important to see these types of efforts, while I'll never go out and buy a MacBook the effort isn't wasted since it gives current users more freedom and future people buying used laptops more options for Linux compatible hardware.
Without a project like this, that hardware will end up being e-waste a lot sooner than it should be, when Apple drops support. At least to me I see an ethical and moral imperative for projects like this, but I also understand people's grievances with Apple.
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we don't live in the 80s though. we live in contemporary times where things have different now meanings to what they did 40 years ago. hope that helps!
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i scrolled half a wiki page to link to... facts. keep seething.
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ah, fair enough. i guess that's kind of the thing with potential dogwhistles. if you know, you know.
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Tell me you are only familiar with stuff going on with the US and nowhere else without telling me.
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You’re the one who brought up the origin of the term, why would you do that if you’re wanting to refer to the contemporary meaning?
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Fact is Rust isn’t ready for every part of the kernel. C/Rust interop is still a growing pain for Linux and troubleshooting issues at the boundary require a developer to be good at both. It’s an uphill battle, and instead of inciting flame wars they could have fostered cooperation around the parts of the kernel that were more prepared. While their work is appreciated and they are incredibly talented, the reality is that social pressures are going to dictate development. At the end of the day software is used by people. Their expectations are not law, but they do need addressed to preserve public opinion.
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Ultimately Linus’ opinion here does not matter in the positive. He can say Rust in kernel is good, but that does not summon the skill and work to make it happen. He can say it’s bad and quash it, at the potential expense of Linux’s future. His position of avoiding an extreme is a pragmatic one. “Let them come if they may, and if they do not it was less a loss for us.”
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see, i could maybe agree with this if it weren't for the amazing work from R4L that already has been and continues to be done, despite subsystems maintainers putting their foot down and going "Not In My Back Yard, bucko!". how many more maintainers does R4L have to lose before Linus realizes he might need to take a stance as a project lead?
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"Let's wait and C".
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Which means unnecessary duplication of code, because every driver has to track kernel Interfaces separately. Why? What's the advantage?
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Wow. The entitlement… maybe learn what a donation means
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Isn't it reasonable for a maintainer to say "no rust here" when they don't know rust, don't want to learn it, and have decades of experience in C, and are maintaining that part of the system
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Again: what cooperation is possible when the maintainer says "I'll do everything in my power to keep Rust out of the kernel"? When they NACK a patch outside of their Subsystem?
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The TV show is British with Rowan Atkinson from the 90s... I aint seppo
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Today, it is practically impossible to survive being a significant Linux maintainer or cross-subsystem contributor if you’re not employed to do it by a corporation.
An interviewer to the Linux dev that's mentioned in the article: "So what did you do next to try to convince the Linux kernel devs of the need for more focus on end-users?"I appears as if Linux is a nest that is not built with a consistent set of user-centric principles. Instead, it seems that each part of the nest is built with a specific corporation or project in mind.
Assuming I'm right that Linux is built with project-based thinking and not product-based thinking, I do wonder what a user-centric Linux or another user-centric FLOSS OS would be like, an OS that is so smoothly built that users come to think of it not as an OS for tech-savvy people, but an obvious alternative that you install immediately after getting a computer.
If Linux is indeed built with project-based thinking, then I wonder why that is. The uncharitable explanation is that someone doesn't want Linux to have a MacOS-like smooth and gorgeous experience. If you don't think MacOS is smooth and gorgeous, I'll address that.
I know some people have suffered immensely with Apple products not only because Apple builds devices that can't be repaired, but because of things simply not working. However, there are many people who love Apple. That's the kind of passionate advocacy that I would love to see in Linux, and not just around freedom and value-based judgements. I want Linux to be thought of as the least-friction tool for professional or recreational use. I want people to think of Linux as gorgeous and usable.
Of course, we can apply Hanlon's razor to this situation ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by [ignorance or lack of skill or practice]."). Managing a product is difficult. Managing a community is difficult. When the nest's design is not built by a team constantly seeking to care about users, but instead by a bunch of users pecking into the nest until their corner is shaped the way they want, it's not surprising to see a lack of user-centricity.
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That's not where "it comes from" though. Since if it were,it wouldnt need to be half a page down.
It's associated yes, but not in everybodies mind is that the case.
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This is just being disingenuous. They clearly mean the origin of the current usage, which is rooted in police "sheepdog" ideology and all that fascist bullshit. Not that the old usage was much better considering the state of police gangs in LA and the kind of laws they were enforcing in the 60s.
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Or just boycott Linux and use Redox if you like Rust.
