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    My English-as-second-language teacher hated me because I kept correcting her spelling and vocabulary. But it was okay because I hated her right back and took every opportunity to annoy her (for the sake of rigorous accuracy, of course). Fortunately she couldn't actually harm or sabotage me because I aced almost all of my tests and had good scores in national ESL competitions, and a sudden drop in grades would likely have been too obvious.

    The point where I'd had enough was a test about the anatomy of vehicles. She had crossed out my answer to "left side of a ship" because I'd written port or larboard (not that I expected someone with a master's diploma to know the etymology of nautical terms*, or not to confuse larboard with starboard because they looked similar), but what made my blood fucking boil was when she crossed out my answers of hood and trunk because I'd used the American words instead of the British bonnet and boot, and when I pointed out that she'd marked those same answers as correct in others' tests, she went back and fucking changed the scores on the other tests. I told her it was "deplorable conduct for a teacher" (approximate translation, and as polite as I was going to get that day) and she dragged me to the principal for disrupting the class.

    That was the third year of high school (I think "junior" is the American equivalent). I took an option to graduate one year early from ESL, in part out of spite. I'm sure she was glad to be rid of me.

    * I knew "larboard" and "starboard" and the names of individual sails from Assassin's Creed 4. Much of my vocabulary comes from games (including some Russian from STALKER, Metro, and MGSV).

    edit: A resurfaced memory! Still regarding sailing -- she thought "in distress" meant that things were calm and safe because "di-stress" was the opposite of "stress". I swear I'm not making this shit up!

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    this is all really surprising. what were the native languages here? it was in the uk right?

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      The time I told the story about how I had mud pies for my 5th birthday and said they used Oreo crumbs to make it look more realistic …. I was stood in front of the entire kindergarten and made to say the word and what it meant.

      Idk why I don’t like attention 40 years later

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      • remi_pan@sh.itjust.worksR [email protected]

        "Impossible" would be a more mathematically accurate answer than "zero".

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        It's not a matter of accuracy even, if for any two natural numbers x < y it holds x - y = 0 then x = y, which is a contradiction. So this is basic consistency requirement, basically sabotaging any effort to teach kids math.

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          They get shot up because of easy access to guns, next question please!

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          Guns were even more accessible years prior. So thats not the complete answer.

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            I'll take "that happened" for 100, please.

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            I actually kind of believe it, because kindergarten/elementary teachers are often from arts & humanities backgrounds, and it's not at all rare to find one who never passed a high school STEM class and therefore prone to get flustered easily when called upon to explain the reasonings behind even simple things.

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              I had an elementary school teacher who insisted that gravity came from the earth's rotation, and that if the earth stopped spinning there would be nothing holding us down.

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              I had an 8th grade social studies teacher/football coach tell us black people had an extra bone in their leg and that's why they were so good at sports. He was pretty well liked teacher tbh, we watched Oliver Stones "JFK" in his class. During lectures he'd come around and sit on the front of his desk to seem more relatable. He ended up on the school board eventually.

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              • tabbsthebat@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                All my teachers were fine with it honestly :3 at least after primary school.. if you corrected them they might've given you extra credit

                But the general notion of saying something correct and people saying that that's wrong, and not knowing why still stands

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                I asked my science teacher why and how the periodic table was setup like it was, I got "that's how it's setup"

                But why, there as to be a reason

                That's just the way they made it

                Yeah because they have to have gone by something what is that something

                That's just the way they did, stop asking questions (please don't fucking learn in here)

                Godamn that pissed me off.

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                  I asked my science teacher why and how the periodic table was setup like it was, I got "that's how it's setup"

                  But why, there as to be a reason

                  That's just the way they made it

                  Yeah because they have to have gone by something what is that something

                  That's just the way they did, stop asking questions (please don't fucking learn in here)

                  Godamn that pissed me off.

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                  Really? We got a detailed breakdown of why the periodic table is the way it is

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                    The time I told the story about how I had mud pies for my 5th birthday and said they used Oreo crumbs to make it look more realistic …. I was stood in front of the entire kindergarten and made to say the word and what it meant.

                    Idk why I don’t like attention 40 years later

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                    What word? Oreo?

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                      What word? Oreo?

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                      realistic

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                        This shit happened to me, but in kindergarten. I grew up in a bilingual house. I spoke English and Spanish equally. I went to the school with my mom to get assessed. She said I could read and was bilingual. The teacher didn't believe it and made me read from one of their books.

                        To add insult to injury, when they had Spanish class, the fucking teacher taught us that "purple" was "porpuda" and "lizard" wad "lizardo." Shit like that... My mom put me in another school.

                        I'm 48 and still laugh about lizardo. How absolutely stupid.

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                        To add insult to injury, when they had Spanish class, the fucking teacher taught us that “purple” was “porpuda” and “lizard” wad “lizardo.”

                        That's ridiculous! Everyone knows the correct world is lizarda! Spanish is a gendered language, the genders matter! /s

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                          I had an elementary school teacher who insisted that gravity came from the earth's rotation, and that if the earth stopped spinning there would be nothing holding us down.

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                          Did your teacher believe in the hollow Earth theory?

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                            There’s not much worse as a kid in a learning environment, or even with your parent(s), to be shut down painfully for being right about something that they don’t know or don’t think you know. Really crushes the satisfaction of nailing a win and turns it into bitterness and starts the lifelong process of keeping your mouth shut when you’re right and letting others win when wrong.

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                              I still remember my teacher bitching me out in front of the class when we were learning negative numbers because when he asked me how I figured out the correct answer I said that the positive numbers and negatives cancelled each other out. Like -4 and positive 5, the negative 4 cancels out 4 on the positive side and you are left with 1. Maybe that wasn't the correct verbiage but it gave me the correct answer every time. He was a dick about correcting me though.

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                                lol porpuda. was she trying to say púrpura instead of morado?

                                y más lagarto = lagardo = lazardo = lizardo??

                                poor kid

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                                Exactly that. Porpuda is now a joke between my girlfriend and I and we intentionally use it wrong.

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                                  Failed a high school required class because I have poor writing abilities. (I word good.. just my penmanship is trash)

                                  Literally got a 0 on a midterm because the teacher "couldn't read my writing"

                                  Crap like the green text and my high school experience is why parents need to be involved in a child's education.

                                  thats been 30 years ago.. I'm still bitter. But it'll make me a better father to school aged kids

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                                    this is all really surprising. what were the native languages here? it was in the uk right?

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                                    Europe, but not an English-speaking country. No native speakers were involved.

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                                      "Impossible" would be a more mathematically accurate answer than "zero".

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                                      Yea, or “the first twenty are free but the remaining five you don’t have to give are a problem”.

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                                        This shit happened to me, but in kindergarten. I grew up in a bilingual house. I spoke English and Spanish equally. I went to the school with my mom to get assessed. She said I could read and was bilingual. The teacher didn't believe it and made me read from one of their books.

                                        To add insult to injury, when they had Spanish class, the fucking teacher taught us that "purple" was "porpuda" and "lizard" wad "lizardo." Shit like that... My mom put me in another school.

                                        I'm 48 and still laugh about lizardo. How absolutely stupid.

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                                        You had Peggy Hill as a full time Spanish teacher‽‽ She's supposed to be a substitute!

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                                          I would understand "unsolvable" or something but 0 just hurts. Later you learn to specify "within natural numbers" and it's totally reasonable to stay within the number range you have learned so far and it would be fine to tell the kid "you're not wrong but let's keep it simple". Just don't teach things they have to unlearn later.

                                          My brother was in a similar situation where he said the square root of -1 is i and the teacher was impressed and it was discussed as a positive thing at home

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                                          Speaking of not teaching things kids have to unlearn later, I've often wondered why we don't just start teaching math with the expectation that you solve for "x".

                                          i.e. Instead of

                                          2 + 3 = 
                                          

                                          Write

                                          2 + 3 = x
                                          

                                          This would prime the child to expect that math is about finding an unknown and you've already introduced the unknown that will be most prominent in their academic career. This will also reduce the steps necessary when teaching how to balance an equation as you no longer have the "well actually you were always solving for 'x' we just didn't write it, so you didn't know, also we're never going to use 'x' for multiplication again." stage.

                                          But I'm not a teacher, parent, or child psychologist and this is just my blathering hypothesis based on watching my peers struggle with math for years.

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