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  • diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

    I'll take "that happened" for 100, please.

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    I actually kind of believe it, because kindergarten/elementary teachers are often from arts & humanities backgrounds, and it's not at all rare to find one who never passed a high school STEM class and therefore prone to get flustered easily when called upon to explain the reasonings behind even simple things.

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      I had an elementary school teacher who insisted that gravity came from the earth's rotation, and that if the earth stopped spinning there would be nothing holding us down.

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      I had an 8th grade social studies teacher/football coach tell us black people had an extra bone in their leg and that's why they were so good at sports. He was pretty well liked teacher tbh, we watched Oliver Stones "JFK" in his class. During lectures he'd come around and sit on the front of his desk to seem more relatable. He ended up on the school board eventually.

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      • tabbsthebat@pawb.socialT [email protected]

        All my teachers were fine with it honestly :3 at least after primary school.. if you corrected them they might've given you extra credit

        But the general notion of saying something correct and people saying that that's wrong, and not knowing why still stands

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        I asked my science teacher why and how the periodic table was setup like it was, I got "that's how it's setup"

        But why, there as to be a reason

        That's just the way they made it

        Yeah because they have to have gone by something what is that something

        That's just the way they did, stop asking questions (please don't fucking learn in here)

        Godamn that pissed me off.

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          I asked my science teacher why and how the periodic table was setup like it was, I got "that's how it's setup"

          But why, there as to be a reason

          That's just the way they made it

          Yeah because they have to have gone by something what is that something

          That's just the way they did, stop asking questions (please don't fucking learn in here)

          Godamn that pissed me off.

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          Really? We got a detailed breakdown of why the periodic table is the way it is

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            The time I told the story about how I had mud pies for my 5th birthday and said they used Oreo crumbs to make it look more realistic …. I was stood in front of the entire kindergarten and made to say the word and what it meant.

            Idk why I don’t like attention 40 years later

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            What word? Oreo?

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              What word? Oreo?

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              realistic

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                This shit happened to me, but in kindergarten. I grew up in a bilingual house. I spoke English and Spanish equally. I went to the school with my mom to get assessed. She said I could read and was bilingual. The teacher didn't believe it and made me read from one of their books.

                To add insult to injury, when they had Spanish class, the fucking teacher taught us that "purple" was "porpuda" and "lizard" wad "lizardo." Shit like that... My mom put me in another school.

                I'm 48 and still laugh about lizardo. How absolutely stupid.

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                To add insult to injury, when they had Spanish class, the fucking teacher taught us that “purple” was “porpuda” and “lizard” wad “lizardo.”

                That's ridiculous! Everyone knows the correct world is lizarda! Spanish is a gendered language, the genders matter! /s

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                  I had an elementary school teacher who insisted that gravity came from the earth's rotation, and that if the earth stopped spinning there would be nothing holding us down.

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                  Did your teacher believe in the hollow Earth theory?

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                    There’s not much worse as a kid in a learning environment, or even with your parent(s), to be shut down painfully for being right about something that they don’t know or don’t think you know. Really crushes the satisfaction of nailing a win and turns it into bitterness and starts the lifelong process of keeping your mouth shut when you’re right and letting others win when wrong.

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                      I still remember my teacher bitching me out in front of the class when we were learning negative numbers because when he asked me how I figured out the correct answer I said that the positive numbers and negatives cancelled each other out. Like -4 and positive 5, the negative 4 cancels out 4 on the positive side and you are left with 1. Maybe that wasn't the correct verbiage but it gave me the correct answer every time. He was a dick about correcting me though.

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                        lol porpuda. was she trying to say púrpura instead of morado?

                        y más lagarto = lagardo = lazardo = lizardo??

                        poor kid

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                        Exactly that. Porpuda is now a joke between my girlfriend and I and we intentionally use it wrong.

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                          Failed a high school required class because I have poor writing abilities. (I word good.. just my penmanship is trash)

                          Literally got a 0 on a midterm because the teacher "couldn't read my writing"

                          Crap like the green text and my high school experience is why parents need to be involved in a child's education.

                          thats been 30 years ago.. I'm still bitter. But it'll make me a better father to school aged kids

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                            this is all really surprising. what were the native languages here? it was in the uk right?

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                            Europe, but not an English-speaking country. No native speakers were involved.

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                              "Impossible" would be a more mathematically accurate answer than "zero".

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                              Yea, or “the first twenty are free but the remaining five you don’t have to give are a problem”.

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                                This shit happened to me, but in kindergarten. I grew up in a bilingual house. I spoke English and Spanish equally. I went to the school with my mom to get assessed. She said I could read and was bilingual. The teacher didn't believe it and made me read from one of their books.

                                To add insult to injury, when they had Spanish class, the fucking teacher taught us that "purple" was "porpuda" and "lizard" wad "lizardo." Shit like that... My mom put me in another school.

                                I'm 48 and still laugh about lizardo. How absolutely stupid.

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                                You had Peggy Hill as a full time Spanish teacher‽‽ She's supposed to be a substitute!

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                                  I would understand "unsolvable" or something but 0 just hurts. Later you learn to specify "within natural numbers" and it's totally reasonable to stay within the number range you have learned so far and it would be fine to tell the kid "you're not wrong but let's keep it simple". Just don't teach things they have to unlearn later.

                                  My brother was in a similar situation where he said the square root of -1 is i and the teacher was impressed and it was discussed as a positive thing at home

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                                  Speaking of not teaching things kids have to unlearn later, I've often wondered why we don't just start teaching math with the expectation that you solve for "x".

                                  i.e. Instead of

                                  2 + 3 = 
                                  

                                  Write

                                  2 + 3 = x
                                  

                                  This would prime the child to expect that math is about finding an unknown and you've already introduced the unknown that will be most prominent in their academic career. This will also reduce the steps necessary when teaching how to balance an equation as you no longer have the "well actually you were always solving for 'x' we just didn't write it, so you didn't know, also we're never going to use 'x' for multiplication again." stage.

                                  But I'm not a teacher, parent, or child psychologist and this is just my blathering hypothesis based on watching my peers struggle with math for years.

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                                    The worst part is that he was grounded by the parents. When I was younger a teacher told me I was wrong for saying that Portrush was in County Antrim, not Londonderry like she told the class. My mum brought it up at the parent teacher conference.

                                    Same teacher also marked me wrong when asked to list loughs in Northern Ireland and Iisted Lough Beg. I was right, but it wasn't on the list that SHE gave us.

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                                    I really don't get this attitude. I've taught many classes, and making mistakes is just part of teaching. Unless you're just reading from a textbook (and even those can be wrong), you're going to make some mistakes. I'm a human being; sometimes I'm going to get stuff wrong. I try to minimize the errors, and it's not like I'm teaching subjects I'm unqualified to teach. But to err is human. Maybe it's different because I've taught undergrad students rather than K12, but IDK. I just really don't get the attitude of an educator that feels they need to conjure up an aura of unerring perfection.

                                    if I make a mistake in some derivation, I'll just admit it, usually with some self-deprecating humor. A few things I've said to address it when it happens:

                                    "Whoops! Guess the coffee hasn't kicked in yet!"

                                    "Whelp, contrary to popular opinion, I am not infallible!"

                                    "Well, I'm clearly not infallible, guess I'll never be pope!"

                                    <Delivered with obvious sarcasm.> "No, you see, that was intentional! i was just testing you to see if you would notice my error! Obviously it can't be that I made a mistake!'

                                    "Whelp, as you can plainly see, I am clearly drunk!"

                                    I've said all these and other things in front of entire classrooms of students. I don't make mistakes often. But if you teach enough, it does happen. And it's always a bit annoying to the students, as they have to back up, maybe correct their notes, etc. And I try to lighten that annoyance with some levity. So I try to make my lectures as correct as possible. But when mistakes do happen, i just try not to make a big deal about them, I dismiss them with some light humor.

                                    Honestly, I'm glad I make mistakes. I wouldn't want to teach if I didn't. Part of teaching is making students feel confident that they have the ability to wrap their heads around concepts that may be very challenging. And if even the instructor can make mistakes? Well then students hopefully won't feel so frustrated and demoralized about the ones they make.

                                    It's a fine line to walk while teaching. On the one hand, you want to be an authoritative source of knowledge on whatever topic you're teaching. On the other, you need to be human. And part of that is not trying to portray yourself as some infallible god. Because ultimately that's not what you are. And kids are clever and perceptive; they can see through your bullshit. If you make a mistake and try to cover it up, they will see through it, and they will lose respect for you. Aside from a few reprobates, most kids have enough emotional intelligence to realize that ultimately you're just a human being trying to do your best, and that some errors are inevitable. Students are perfectly willing to forgive imperfection. They're far less willing to forgive dishonesty.

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                                      Speaking of not teaching things kids have to unlearn later, I've often wondered why we don't just start teaching math with the expectation that you solve for "x".

                                      i.e. Instead of

                                      2 + 3 = 
                                      

                                      Write

                                      2 + 3 = x
                                      

                                      This would prime the child to expect that math is about finding an unknown and you've already introduced the unknown that will be most prominent in their academic career. This will also reduce the steps necessary when teaching how to balance an equation as you no longer have the "well actually you were always solving for 'x' we just didn't write it, so you didn't know, also we're never going to use 'x' for multiplication again." stage.

                                      But I'm not a teacher, parent, or child psychologist and this is just my blathering hypothesis based on watching my peers struggle with math for years.

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                                      The former has the advantage that you can just write the answer in the same line on the worksheet. But you could maybe introduce the latter early as an interim stage to avoid learning everything at once.

                                      2 + 3 = x
                                      x =
                                      

                                      Might confuse first graders but work at a later stage. My only expertise is that I'm a former child so take this with a grain of salt

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                                        It's not a matter of accuracy even, if for any two natural numbers x < y it holds x - y = 0 then x = y, which is a contradiction. So this is basic consistency requirement, basically sabotaging any effort to teach kids math.

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                                        Depends on how your mathematical system is defined. In the mathematics system this teacher is using, negative numbers simply do not exist. The answer to 5-6 is the same as 5/0: NaN. Is this mathematical system incomplete? Yes. But, as has been thoroughly proven, there is no such thing as a complete mathematical system.

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                                          Can confirm. Nothing beats not having a boss.

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                                          Can confirm. Nothing beats not having a boss.

                                          Life pro tip. A machete and a shovel are very useful tools in achieving this state.

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