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30M After divorce I got literally zero support from anyone, why?

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  • R [email protected]

    I got divorced like 5 months ago after a 9 years with this girl who cheated on me, emotionally abused me, etc etc

    I've been suicidal since the split, getting worse by the day still, and literally nobody ever asked if I was OK, aside from my mom. Even when I begged close friends for support they basically just ghosted me. My ex is surrounded by support, from the same people who I thought were my best friends.

    Do I just have shitty people around me or is this just what guys deal with? The attitude towards me is just "get over it". I've lost almost everyone I'm close to because of this and I'm starting to think there might actually be one viable option of getting over it because existing is simply torture. All of 2025 felt like just a bad dream but it's unfortunately real.

    Edit: Yes I have a counselor - a very good one I see weekly.

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    I'm going through a divorce right now. For the most part the friends and people I've told have largely been supportive of me. I think it helped that I had friends that were my own and not shared with my ex-wife. The shared friends we had together have mostly supported her, but they were her friends before we had met. One of the things I have done since splitting is getting more involved with my hobby that is improv theater. Finding a hobby where you are around others can help with building a group of friends who know you not through your ex or past relationship. It would make it more likely that they would support you and not her.

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    • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comG [email protected]

      Mad about reality?

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      Of all the places to spread that bullshit, on a thread posted by a man grieving a relationship. Disgusting behavior. I am lucky to have three men in my life who got my back no matter what. We say I love you to one another. I am still married but who knows for how much longer. They will be there for me.

      I am lucky, yes. I've made friends who have broken out of the bonds that society puts on men. By being like this you are acting no better than the same fucked up shit.

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      • R [email protected]

        I got divorced like 5 months ago after a 9 years with this girl who cheated on me, emotionally abused me, etc etc

        I've been suicidal since the split, getting worse by the day still, and literally nobody ever asked if I was OK, aside from my mom. Even when I begged close friends for support they basically just ghosted me. My ex is surrounded by support, from the same people who I thought were my best friends.

        Do I just have shitty people around me or is this just what guys deal with? The attitude towards me is just "get over it". I've lost almost everyone I'm close to because of this and I'm starting to think there might actually be one viable option of getting over it because existing is simply torture. All of 2025 felt like just a bad dream but it's unfortunately real.

        Edit: Yes I have a counselor - a very good one I see weekly.

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        Yeah this is what men deal with & guess what you'll be gaslit into thinking that YOU WERE THE PROBLEM all along eventhough evidence suggests otherwise.

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        • P [email protected]

          Because he's clearly suffering from PISD. Yes he needs help. He's seeing a counselor weekly. He's getting worse with that.

          This, what OP is going through ? That's normal. As my therapist said, she would have been far more worried if I didn't get the thoughts.

          Trauma is way harder to work through, and needs far more delicate care than depression. Depression is a symptom here, and his therapist will tell him to talk to a physician, OR if they determine he's a risk to himself, they will get him emergency care.

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          he's clearly suffering from PISD

          Assuming you mean PTSD, there is not nearly enough information here to diagnose OP. Regardless of what diagnosis you, random internet person, have decided to bestow, seeing a qualified physician is a crucial part of mental health workup. Still not sure why you continue to take issue with this.

          This, what OP is going through ? That's normal. As my therapist said, she would have been far more worried if I didn't get the thoughts.

          You have not done a suicide risk assessment and don't know the character or severity of OP's suicidal ideation or other symptoms. He is not you.

          his therapist will tell him to talk to a physician

          A good therapist will, but unfortunately, this does not happen nearly as much as it should. This leads to delayed diagnosis and management of comorbid medical conditions that contribute to feelings of depression. Therapists typically don't have broader medical training outside of mental health and aren't always well versed in the many treatments for mental health disorders.

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          • R [email protected]

            I got divorced like 5 months ago after a 9 years with this girl who cheated on me, emotionally abused me, etc etc

            I've been suicidal since the split, getting worse by the day still, and literally nobody ever asked if I was OK, aside from my mom. Even when I begged close friends for support they basically just ghosted me. My ex is surrounded by support, from the same people who I thought were my best friends.

            Do I just have shitty people around me or is this just what guys deal with? The attitude towards me is just "get over it". I've lost almost everyone I'm close to because of this and I'm starting to think there might actually be one viable option of getting over it because existing is simply torture. All of 2025 felt like just a bad dream but it's unfortunately real.

            Edit: Yes I have a counselor - a very good one I see weekly.

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            You're losing friendships by asking for support? Something's missing here...

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              You're losing friendships by asking for support? Something's missing here...

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              He would loose friendship by asking for support, if there was true friendship in the first place.
              Although it is hard for OP to see how these ppl tread him, at least he got to know their true faces.

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                He would loose friendship by asking for support, if there was true friendship in the first place.
                Although it is hard for OP to see how these ppl tread him, at least he got to know their true faces.

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                Either they're not friends or

                OP misinterprets their behavior, and they actually are supporting, just not the way/amount OP wants or

                "friends" believe OP is at fault and nobody is feeling sympathetic.

                I guess they could also just be terrible people that decided to shit on OP for shits n giggles. But I doubt it.

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                • R [email protected]

                  I got divorced like 5 months ago after a 9 years with this girl who cheated on me, emotionally abused me, etc etc

                  I've been suicidal since the split, getting worse by the day still, and literally nobody ever asked if I was OK, aside from my mom. Even when I begged close friends for support they basically just ghosted me. My ex is surrounded by support, from the same people who I thought were my best friends.

                  Do I just have shitty people around me or is this just what guys deal with? The attitude towards me is just "get over it". I've lost almost everyone I'm close to because of this and I'm starting to think there might actually be one viable option of getting over it because existing is simply torture. All of 2025 felt like just a bad dream but it's unfortunately real.

                  Edit: Yes I have a counselor - a very good one I see weekly.

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                  My circle of friends before and after my divorce are almost completely different. Only 1 of my college friends stuck around. And my ex straight up moved across country. So it's not like they were supporting her and not me.
                  I would recommend you do what I did. Pick up a hobby that requires you to interact with other people. I picked up dancing and Dungeons and Dragons. It really helped me build new friendships and restart my life.
                  It really sucks, and it's extra hard building relationships when you are in your current state, but it does help.

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                  • R [email protected]

                    I got divorced like 5 months ago after a 9 years with this girl who cheated on me, emotionally abused me, etc etc

                    I've been suicidal since the split, getting worse by the day still, and literally nobody ever asked if I was OK, aside from my mom. Even when I begged close friends for support they basically just ghosted me. My ex is surrounded by support, from the same people who I thought were my best friends.

                    Do I just have shitty people around me or is this just what guys deal with? The attitude towards me is just "get over it". I've lost almost everyone I'm close to because of this and I'm starting to think there might actually be one viable option of getting over it because existing is simply torture. All of 2025 felt like just a bad dream but it's unfortunately real.

                    Edit: Yes I have a counselor - a very good one I see weekly.

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                    30 Million?

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                    • R [email protected]

                      I got divorced like 5 months ago after a 9 years with this girl who cheated on me, emotionally abused me, etc etc

                      I've been suicidal since the split, getting worse by the day still, and literally nobody ever asked if I was OK, aside from my mom. Even when I begged close friends for support they basically just ghosted me. My ex is surrounded by support, from the same people who I thought were my best friends.

                      Do I just have shitty people around me or is this just what guys deal with? The attitude towards me is just "get over it". I've lost almost everyone I'm close to because of this and I'm starting to think there might actually be one viable option of getting over it because existing is simply torture. All of 2025 felt like just a bad dream but it's unfortunately real.

                      Edit: Yes I have a counselor - a very good one I see weekly.

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                      You need to find a new circle. Pick up a new hobby with a community. Kung Fu for me was great. Exercise aside, the classmates are supportive and the community is great.
                      Find one that would work for you

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                      • R [email protected]

                        I got divorced like 5 months ago after a 9 years with this girl who cheated on me, emotionally abused me, etc etc

                        I've been suicidal since the split, getting worse by the day still, and literally nobody ever asked if I was OK, aside from my mom. Even when I begged close friends for support they basically just ghosted me. My ex is surrounded by support, from the same people who I thought were my best friends.

                        Do I just have shitty people around me or is this just what guys deal with? The attitude towards me is just "get over it". I've lost almost everyone I'm close to because of this and I'm starting to think there might actually be one viable option of getting over it because existing is simply torture. All of 2025 felt like just a bad dream but it's unfortunately real.

                        Edit: Yes I have a counselor - a very good one I see weekly.

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                        Pretty limited information, but based on it being hard to imagine a group of compassionate people all siding with the person who did the cheating, my guess is that your "friends" probably suck. My advice isto sign up for a community college acting class and try hard to immerse yourself in it. Acting and getting involved in theatre totally cured my serious anxiety problems. There's something about it that helps you get unwrapped from yourself and want to explore other people and the world more. My other advice is don't define yourself as "the divorced guy" - especially when socializing with new people. They aren't gonna want to hear all the gory details. Dig into your personal interests and what makes you happy and focus on those things.

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                          You're losing friendships by asking for support? Something's missing here...

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                          I'm going to go against the grain and suggest finding people with like-minded life situations.

                          I had a friend who has a divorce at age 40. I did all I could as a friend, provide sympathy, check in. But he was extremely miserable, or just downright offensive.

                          Dating is hard at that age - I get it. I don't need to hear his opinion about why women of today aren't what he wants in every conversation.

                          I also cannot play his wingman. No, I'm not going to "pretend" to flirt with girls at a bar with him when I'm married.

                          But it became offensive. Like my niece turned into an adult and he asked: "Is she looking for a man?" Dude, you're twenty years older. WTF.

                          Joke or not, as a married man, that's not where I am in life. And yeah, I absolutely stopped hanging out with him because this version of him is hard to deal with.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            You know, I can't seem to find it right now.

                            It was in a paper discussing "Immediate effects of Post-Infidelity-Stress-Disorder".

                            I was also given a similar number after my attempt (1/3rd of men)

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                            It's probably attempt suicide. There is generally an order of magnitude between attempt and commit. But I'm not downplaying how shitty it is tho.

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                              Of all the places to spread that bullshit, on a thread posted by a man grieving a relationship. Disgusting behavior. I am lucky to have three men in my life who got my back no matter what. We say I love you to one another. I am still married but who knows for how much longer. They will be there for me.

                              I am lucky, yes. I've made friends who have broken out of the bonds that society puts on men. By being like this you are acting no better than the same fucked up shit.

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                              So yeah, mad at reality, gotcha

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                                Why do you assume that OP only has/had male friends?

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                                I can't speak to the experience of an emotionally stunted woman.

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                                  You're losing friendships by asking for support? Something's missing here...

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                                  Not really, after my divorce I was never contacted again by those friends. Fuck em.

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                                    Pretty limited information, but based on it being hard to imagine a group of compassionate people all siding with the person who did the cheating, my guess is that your "friends" probably suck. My advice isto sign up for a community college acting class and try hard to immerse yourself in it. Acting and getting involved in theatre totally cured my serious anxiety problems. There's something about it that helps you get unwrapped from yourself and want to explore other people and the world more. My other advice is don't define yourself as "the divorced guy" - especially when socializing with new people. They aren't gonna want to hear all the gory details. Dig into your personal interests and what makes you happy and focus on those things.

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                                    Or the friends don’t suck and they sided with the ex for very valid reasons not mentioned here

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                                    • R [email protected]

                                      I fell into alt right when she started abusing me which helped destroy the relationship. I got out of that shit.

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                                      I'm glad you got out of that but I think we figured out why your friends stopped supporting you. You have reaped what you've sewn. Your actions had consequences.

                                      Now that you're free of both the relationship and the toxic mindset it would be a good time to pick up some hobbies that would encourage meeting and making new friends.

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                                        I got divorced like 5 months ago after a 9 years with this girl who cheated on me, emotionally abused me, etc etc

                                        I've been suicidal since the split, getting worse by the day still, and literally nobody ever asked if I was OK, aside from my mom. Even when I begged close friends for support they basically just ghosted me. My ex is surrounded by support, from the same people who I thought were my best friends.

                                        Do I just have shitty people around me or is this just what guys deal with? The attitude towards me is just "get over it". I've lost almost everyone I'm close to because of this and I'm starting to think there might actually be one viable option of getting over it because existing is simply torture. All of 2025 felt like just a bad dream but it's unfortunately real.

                                        Edit: Yes I have a counselor - a very good one I see weekly.

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                                        Because real life isn't a movie filled with people standing by to assist the main character in the third act. People are generally shit, and you are the only person who actually cares about you. It sucks to learn this particular lesson in such a brutal way, but it's an important lesson nonetheless. Move on and make this a footnote in your success story.

                                        Signed, another person with your exact same experience.

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                                          Speaking from my experience, I get very overwhelmed with empathy when someone close to me is going through something as difficult as an illness, divorce or job loss. I want to be as supportive as possible, but also know that there's usually little to nothing that I can do, and then I get overwhelmed by the feelings of helplessness. I will let them know that I'm there for them if they need anything, and I will check in from time to time to see how they are doing, but I always find myself avoiding talking about the 'real issue'.

                                          I know that I'm included in the 'people suck and are incredibly, inherently selfish' - even knowing that, I have a hard time addressing it. Even when the roles have been reversed, after I lost my job and people stopped reaching out to me, I knew exactly why... I was making them uncomfortable and they just didn't know how to deal with it. And even then, I had no idea what I wanted from them, other than for things to just be as they had been before.

                                          Even after my own experience, when a close friend of mine lost his job I dreaded talking with him because of the helplessness that I felt at being able to do anything for him, and the reminder that at any moment I could be in his shoes again. It sucks, it's a massive character flaw, and it is even worse that I'm aware of it but so far have been unable to change. I still love my family and friends, I just don't know how to show them that during their times of greatest need.

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                                          Thanks for that perspective, I really appreciate it actually. What I landed on, and what ultimately helped me move on to the point that I have, is really accepting that people DO care, but just don't have the tools to address it. Which may or may not be their fault, but I don't have time to wait around or, much worse, help and support them to... hopefully one day support me?

                                          My diagnosis gave me the shift of mind to realize I'd been making space for other people's flaws and thereby sacrificing my needs. So I've left room for them to come back into my life, but am not wasting any energy waiting on support from them.

                                          If I may offer my point of view on what I've needed in my situation - the bar is through the floor haha. Honestly I just need and want validation. My mom finally came around to acknowledging my situation, but just dumps a bunch of toxic positivity on me, e.g. "Just keep your head up and everything's going to be great! Everyone has problems they deal with, eat right and exercise and everything's fine". My former coworker just responded with recently "I'm so sorry, I don't know what to say". And frankly that moved me to tears. I just want someone to say "that sucks, I'm sorry." That can literally be it, just an honest space and acknowledgement. Life is hard, and sometimes it's great. But ignoring and shunning the hard parts makes them harder and more lonely. It makes me feel gaslit constantly.

                                          Everyone needs different things, but that's been my needs during this time. What I hear over and over is "oh I didn't want to impose or remind you of it." Fam. It's on my mind. All the time. Even when I'm happy, it's not far. I want to talk about it, deal with it and work on it, them move on to the rest of my life. I'm more than my cancer and refusing to acknowledge it makes it my whole identity.

                                          Anyway, this has been helpful and felt great to talk through. Thanks

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