Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.
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I have nothing against Russian developers. But I do think they should be completely isolated and blocked from the outside world. That's the whole point of sanctions.
By your logic developers in the US shouldn't be allowed to contribute to free software either, after all the US is committing genocides and threatening to invade other countries
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Do you believe US civilians should be prohibited from interacting with the rest of the world?
Yes...? Why haven't other countries sanctioned the US for Gaza genocide? But that's also not the point at hand.
How the fuck is banning people in certain countries from contributing to small projects like this doing anything but shooting the FOSS ecosystem, which already has a severe shortage of developers, in the foot?
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This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.
Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.
Upvoting for the concise summary of what the article is about (thanks!); not for the opinion expressed (which appears to conflate Russian developers with the actions of the Russian government -- something I find problematic at best).
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Eh, you don’t really have a point when people get banned for saying men aren’t women.
Please elaborate? What exactly do you mean?
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Russian bots down voting you.
This is how sanctions work. Don't like it? Get your government to stop invading Ukraine.
Proceeds to use open source tooling with numerous contributions from US-based software developers
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why is Organic Street Maps better than the other ones, that claim to be Open Street Maps derived?
bandwidth is not disposable ya'll.
Two reasons:
- interface rocks
- maps are downloaded for offline use
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This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.
Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.
Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.
I... don't follow. How does this make the Microsoft, Github, and USA look good? The policy here is absolutely stupid.
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Microsoft literally had no choice.
Exactly. The real issue is the sanctions against Russia. Why those sanctions involve FOSS projects, I'll never understand.
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By your logic developers in the US shouldn't be allowed to contribute to free software either, after all the US is committing genocides and threatening to invade other countries
Well, yeah. That's literally the point of sanctions.
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By your logic developers in the US shouldn't be allowed to contribute to free software either, after all the US is committing genocides and threatening to invade other countries
If some country will sanction US that is hosting FOSS, absolutely. That's not mutually exclusive with this.
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The US supplied 80% of the bombs dropped on Gaza.
Do you believe US civilians should be prohibited from interacting with the rest of the world?
As a US citizen. YES. FFS, the point of sanctions is to compel a change or deter an action. Americans might pay way more attention when the rest of the world puts us in timeout because of the terrible leadership.
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Upvoting for the concise summary of what the article is about (thanks!); not for the opinion expressed (which appears to conflate Russian developers with the actions of the Russian government -- something I find problematic at best).
Nothing personal against russian FOSS developers. They should be blocked (sanctioned) from contributing until the sanctions are stopped.
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Two reasons:
- interface rocks
- maps are downloaded for offline use
that's enough for me, except are the other ones not good?
downloading maps for offline -- you nuts? how does anyone profit from the clicks?
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Well, yeah. That's literally the point of sanctions.
The point is to damage their economy, not reject free contributions for non-critical but useful software projects
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I have nothing against Russian developers. But I do think they should be completely isolated and blocked from the outside world. That's the whole point of sanctions.
If we would have taken the same line on say biology or mathematics we and the Russian people both would have been worse off.
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Eh, you don’t really have a point when people get banned for saying men aren’t women.
Please elaborate? What exactly do you mean?
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This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.
Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.
I don't think I want my government deciding who can contribute to my open source project.
When Trump gets into a dick measuring contest with a US ally and sanctions them, POOF foreign contributors are gone. Community management, codebase familiarity, and open PRs be damned. It'll kill open source projects.
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that's enough for me, except are the other ones not good?
downloading maps for offline -- you nuts? how does anyone profit from the clicks?
They don't - but at the same time it saves a ton of money on bandwidth
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This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.
Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.
Are you aware of how much open source work comes from Russians? Russians != Russian govt.
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The US supplied 80% of the bombs dropped on Gaza.
Do you believe US civilians should be prohibited from interacting with the rest of the world?
I mean, it’s probably in their best interest to avoid us. We are a terrible country.
