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Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.

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  • Q [email protected]

    I'm looking forward to the time Forgejo starts supporting Forgefed

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    Yeah with their recent grant it looks like it’s the next priority, that will be pretty neat:

    https://floss.social/@forgefed/114002790388336170

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    • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneI [email protected]

      Some contributer got flagged by US sanctions based on their IP, I think

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      That's weird. Russians and Americans aren't sanctioned from working on projects together. The sanctions are mostly targeted towards industry and defense. Tucker Carlson works for Russian media and freely travels between the two countries. There has to be something more to this, like the IP came from a known state actor.

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      • mitm0@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

        Yeah but it's not Microsoft-controlled

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        Gitlab was created by a Ukrainian, and Microsoft is blocking Organic maps Russian developer due to sanctions due to war on ukraine, which is why what you're suggesting is pretty cursed

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          This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.

          Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

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            So a person that happens to be iving in a sanctioned country, makes them banned? Bullshit

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            Yes,you understand how sanctions work.

            A person living in a sanctioned country can also no longer buy certain things, travel to certain countries or use certain services.
            You couldn't buy a Boeing Plane during WW2 in Germany as well...

            And considering that Russia is waging a fucking genocidal war and a hybrid war in Europe and a majority (according to relatively independent statistics) of the population stil supports that shit and has done so for a long time (when they still could have changed course) it's god damn right these sanctions exist.

            BTW: Cuba is being sanctioned by the US for simply nationalising US held companies (Fidel Castro wasn't that much of a communist in the beginning) since 1960 and basically none gave or gives a rats ass.

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              Everyone who is censored, everyone who abuses their mod powers; it just creates an opportunity for people to pick up the slack and create better communities.

              You only have yourselves to blame, dickhead mods.

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                This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.

                Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

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                Remember kids, racism and bigotry are always okay if it's against the right people.

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                  Boycott all US based services.

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                  American here, please do this.

                  All of our companies are run by scumbags taking advantage of useful idiots. We need more options and legitimate competition.

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                  • chaoticentropy@feddit.ukC [email protected]

                    Once the US starts saying that nobody who trades with the US can deal with Canada, Denmark, Mexico, etc... then it starts to get interesting.

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                    Or if the US fucks up enough for the rest of the world to put a UNO reverse card on the US.
                    If China and the EU do that, the US is fucked within a few months.
                    A "you can't trade with either of these markets when you trade with the US" would be interesting.

                    And tbh, from what I gather it's absolutely a option that is being discussed in diplomatic circles. The main reason it's not on the table is the huge amount of debts the USA has in China. And the EU will use it as a backup arrow for "further escalation".
                    Maybe someone should tell Trump who actually delivers the machines for the factories he wants to "bring back".
                    Hint: It's not the US.

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                      Remember kids, racism and bigotry are always okay if it's against the right people.

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                      I have nothing against Russian developers. But I do think they should be completely isolated and blocked from the outside world. That's the whole point of sanctions.

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                        Microsoft literally had no choice.

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                        Government and major corporations are the exact same entity in the US.

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                        • Y [email protected]

                          So a person that happens to be iving in a sanctioned country, makes them banned? Bullshit

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                          It is bullshit, you're right.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            Yes,you understand how sanctions work.

                            A person living in a sanctioned country can also no longer buy certain things, travel to certain countries or use certain services.
                            You couldn't buy a Boeing Plane during WW2 in Germany as well...

                            And considering that Russia is waging a fucking genocidal war and a hybrid war in Europe and a majority (according to relatively independent statistics) of the population stil supports that shit and has done so for a long time (when they still could have changed course) it's god damn right these sanctions exist.

                            BTW: Cuba is being sanctioned by the US for simply nationalising US held companies (Fidel Castro wasn't that much of a communist in the beginning) since 1960 and basically none gave or gives a rats ass.

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                            a majority (according to relatively independent statistics) of the population stil supports that shit and has done so for a long time

                            Most Russians are afraid to talk about politics at all. Their responses when questioned are either "I agree with what the government is doing" or "I don't talk politics."

                            We should be strengthening our ties with these oppressed people in order to help them, and help Ukraine as a result. Instead we're doing the "average intelligence" play of furthering their oppression while funneling money to the MIC.

                            This war has been a great example of how many useful idiots are around us.

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                            • P [email protected]

                              Does that work?

                              Is it right to tell random people "hey you, it's your job to break local laws and topple your dictator, we could invade you with actual trained military people but that would be inconvenient for us"?

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                              No, it's not right.

                              People on these forums have been conditioned to see the world through their fairytale-lens and nothing else, though.

                              A part of oppression is removing people's ability to fight back. Anyone who holds the average Russian responsible for the war is just playing into the hands of the cabal. It's like they never heard of Navalny, or any other Russian dissenters.

                              These people need our help. We shouldn't victim-blame them and say they need to topple a dictator all on their own.

                              Same goes for North Korea.

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                              • E [email protected]

                                Probably better this economic violence than I dunno, the physical violence Russia has exerted on the Ukrainian populace?

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                                Not sure why you're arguing "better" when we have both.

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                                  Ironically the US is more likely to drop the sanctions before Germany, where Codeberg is based.

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                                  Viva la self-hosting!

                                  Power to the people!

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                                  • R [email protected]

                                    This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.

                                    Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

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                                    Russian bots down voting you.

                                    This is how sanctions work. Don't like it? Get your government to stop invading Ukraine.

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                                      conservative: says a racial slur

                                      Online Platform: bans user

                                      conservative: "sO mUcH fOr tHe tOlEraNt lEfT 😡"

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                                      Eh, you don't really have a point when people get banned for saying men aren't women.

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                                        I think that's bad (for my personal use) because if I accidentally commit a secret key, how do I claw it back? Basically, how would I claw anything back if it's on a blockchain aka on thousands/millions of computers already (you can't).

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                                        You can make commits on your system without pushing them to the remote server, and that’s the default behavior.

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                                          I have nothing against Russian developers. But I do think they should be completely isolated and blocked from the outside world. That's the whole point of sanctions.

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                                          You're causing more harm than good.

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