Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.
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Does that work?
Is it right to tell random people "hey you, it's your job to break local laws and topple your dictator, we could invade you with actual trained military people but that would be inconvenient for us"?
Is a strictly enforced economic sanction better than an all out regime change invasion/occupation of another sovereign country that costs the lives of millions... we'll have to get back to you on that one.
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I assume most Russian GitHub users use a VPN to avoid it. He has chosen not to in order to make a point.
The real worry is what happens when the US declares sanctions on random allies in their stupid "trade war"...
Once the US starts saying that nobody who trades with the US can deal with Canada, Denmark, Mexico, etc... then it starts to get interesting.
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I'm looking forward to the time Forgejo starts supporting Forgefed
Yeah with their recent grant it looks like it’s the next priority, that will be pretty neat:
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Some contributer got flagged by US sanctions based on their IP, I think
That's weird. Russians and Americans aren't sanctioned from working on projects together. The sanctions are mostly targeted towards industry and defense. Tucker Carlson works for Russian media and freely travels between the two countries. There has to be something more to this, like the IP came from a known state actor.
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Yeah but it's not Microsoft-controlled
Gitlab was created by a Ukrainian, and Microsoft is blocking Organic maps Russian developer due to sanctions due to war on ukraine, which is why what you're suggesting is pretty cursed
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This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.
Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.
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So a person that happens to be iving in a sanctioned country, makes them banned? Bullshit
Yes,you understand how sanctions work.
A person living in a sanctioned country can also no longer buy certain things, travel to certain countries or use certain services.
You couldn't buy a Boeing Plane during WW2 in Germany as well...And considering that Russia is waging a fucking genocidal war and a hybrid war in Europe and a majority (according to relatively independent statistics) of the population stil supports that shit and has done so for a long time (when they still could have changed course) it's god damn right these sanctions exist.
BTW: Cuba is being sanctioned by the US for simply nationalising US held companies (Fidel Castro wasn't that much of a communist in the beginning) since 1960 and basically none gave or gives a rats ass.
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This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.
Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.
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Boycott all US based services.
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Once the US starts saying that nobody who trades with the US can deal with Canada, Denmark, Mexico, etc... then it starts to get interesting.
Or if the US fucks up enough for the rest of the world to put a UNO reverse card on the US.
If China and the EU do that, the US is fucked within a few months.
A "you can't trade with either of these markets when you trade with the US" would be interesting.And tbh, from what I gather it's absolutely a option that is being discussed in diplomatic circles. The main reason it's not on the table is the huge amount of debts the USA has in China. And the EU will use it as a backup arrow for "further escalation".
Maybe someone should tell Trump who actually delivers the machines for the factories he wants to "bring back".
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I have nothing against Russian developers. But I do think they should be completely isolated and blocked from the outside world. That's the whole point of sanctions.
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Microsoft literally had no choice.
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So a person that happens to be iving in a sanctioned country, makes them banned? Bullshit
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Yes,you understand how sanctions work.
A person living in a sanctioned country can also no longer buy certain things, travel to certain countries or use certain services.
You couldn't buy a Boeing Plane during WW2 in Germany as well...And considering that Russia is waging a fucking genocidal war and a hybrid war in Europe and a majority (according to relatively independent statistics) of the population stil supports that shit and has done so for a long time (when they still could have changed course) it's god damn right these sanctions exist.
BTW: Cuba is being sanctioned by the US for simply nationalising US held companies (Fidel Castro wasn't that much of a communist in the beginning) since 1960 and basically none gave or gives a rats ass.
a majority (according to relatively independent statistics) of the population stil supports that shit and has done so for a long time
Most Russians are afraid to talk about politics at all. Their responses when questioned are either "I agree with what the government is doing" or "I don't talk politics."
We should be strengthening our ties with these oppressed people in order to help them, and help Ukraine as a result. Instead we're doing the "average intelligence" play of furthering their oppression while funneling money to the MIC.
This war has been a great example of how many useful idiots are around us.
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Does that work?
Is it right to tell random people "hey you, it's your job to break local laws and topple your dictator, we could invade you with actual trained military people but that would be inconvenient for us"?
No, it's not right.
People on these forums have been conditioned to see the world through their fairytale-lens and nothing else, though.
A part of oppression is removing people's ability to fight back. Anyone who holds the average Russian responsible for the war is just playing into the hands of the cabal. It's like they never heard of Navalny, or any other Russian dissenters.
These people need our help. We shouldn't victim-blame them and say they need to topple a dictator all on their own.
Same goes for North Korea.
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Probably better this economic violence than I dunno, the physical violence Russia has exerted on the Ukrainian populace?
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Ironically the US is more likely to drop the sanctions before Germany, where Codeberg is based.
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This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.
Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.
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